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peacenjoy
13-Mar 2019 Wednesday 1:15 AM (1869 days ago)               #1
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dear mr ab,

ab may consider the following:
tipster cannot bet further once limit is reached (train up discipline/money management among tipster)
this may be coupled with bottom 50 tipster medals, with terms and conditions such as must not be idling for x days
stakes limit may be revised

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13-Mar 2019 Wednesday 1:42 AM (1869 days ago)            #2
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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:
dear mr ab,

ab may consider the following:
tipster cannot bet further once limit is reached (train up discipline/money management among tipster)
this may be coupled with bottom 50 tipster medals, with terms and conditions such as must not be idling for x days
stakes limit may be revised

thanks and best regards
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But this is not the pipeline of rock bottom medal. But nevertheless pls wait for webmaster reply. 
 




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13-Mar 2019 Wednesday 2:12 AM (1869 days ago)            #4
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quote originally posted by justin11sg:

But this is not the pipeline of rock bottom medal. But nevertheless pls wait for webmaster reply. 
 


i know
i read about bottom 50 tipster booby medal
so can integrate them together


also, can consider to add nba games to football (nba playoff is coming)




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13-Mar 2019 Wednesday 2:23 AM (1869 days ago)            #5
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no minus value (bet what was provided)
bottom 10 or 50 tipsters booby medal? with terms and conditions such as no idle for x days
add nba to product portfolio
stake per game revision from the beginning (not just last xx days)
% bonus for streak (example if win 5days in a row, average of 5days winning multiply by 10%)




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13-Mar 2019 Wednesday 2:28 AM (1869 days ago)            #6
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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:
dear mr ab,

ab may consider the following:
tipster cannot bet further once limit is reached (train up discipline/money management among tipster)
this may be coupled with bottom 50 tipster medals, with terms and conditions such as must not be idling for x days
stakes limit may be revised

thanks and best regards
khoo



If tipster cannot bet once limit (I interpret your limit as going negative) is reached, then how to determine the bottom 10 tipsters?

The bottom 10 is based on the most negative total. 
Also, your suggestion will take the fun off those that hit the limit.
TC is a fun tournament after all. It won’t be nice to ‘knock out’ participants during the process
  

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quote originally posted by wembly:

If tipster cannot bet once limit (I interpret your limit as going negative) is reached, then how to determine the bottom 10 tipsters?
The bottom 10 is based on the most negative total. 
Also, your suggestion will take the fun off those that hit the limit.
TC is a fun tournament after all. It won’t be nice to ‘knock out’ participants during the process
  
This message was edited by wembly on 13-Mar-2019 at 2:34 AM


ok, sorry, i thought i could not reply again to a locked thread




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quote originally posted by wembly:

If tipster cannot bet once limit (I interpret your limit as going negative) is reached, then how to determine the bottom 10 tipsters?
The bottom 10 is based on the most negative total. 
Also, your suggestion will take the fun off those that hit the limit.
TC is a fun tournament after all. It won’t be nice to ‘knock out’ participants during the process
  
This message was edited by wembly on 13-Mar-2019 at 2:34 AM


bottom 10 or 50 tipster could be based on plus values of the bottom 10 or 50 tipsters




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quote originally posted by wembly:

If tipster cannot bet once limit (I interpret your limit as going negative) is reached, then how to determine the bottom 10 tipsters?
The bottom 10 is based on the most negative total. 
Also, your suggestion will take the fun off those that hit the limit.
TC is a fun tournament after all. It won’t be nice to ‘knock out’ participants during the process
  
This message was edited by wembly on 13-Mar-2019 at 2:34 AM


taking fun off tipster is really见人见智.it depends. unity is plural or a coin has two sides.




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quote originally posted by wembly:

If tipster cannot bet once limit (I interpret your limit as going negative) is reached, then how to determine the bottom 10 tipsters?
The bottom 10 is based on the most negative total. 
Also, your suggestion will take the fun off those that hit the limit.
TC is a fun tournament after all. It won’t be nice to ‘knock out’ participants during the process
  
This message was edited by wembly on 13-Mar-2019 at 2:34 AM


in any case, it is just my suggesstions. take it or leave it. no problem. peace ya?




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13-Mar 2019 Wednesday 3:08 AM (1869 days ago)            #11
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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

in any case, it is just my suggesstions. take it or leave it. no problem. peace ya?




As I’ve mrntioned to you bro, I’m just giving my feedback to webmaster.
It’s his call as to whether he’ll implement your suggestion.
Thread is marked settled because he has been notified.
Doesn’t mean that your suggestion is discarded 




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quote originally posted by wembly:

As I’ve mrntioned to you bro, I’m just giving my feedback to webmaster.
It’s his call as to whether he’ll implement your suggestion.
Thread is marked settled because he has been notified.
Doesn’t mean that your suggestion is discarded 


for sure bro wembly
ab is the owner, im jus a member. he decides what he thinks is good for ab




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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

for sure bro wembly
ab is the owner, im jus a member. he decides what he thinks is good for ab




No problem bro.
It’s never an issue to disagree on things.
We are all trying to improve the forum even with differing views.
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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

for sure bro wembly
ab is the owner, im jus a member. he decides what he thinks is good for ab




In line with your suggestion, I think what’s better is that those who has gone negative during the course of the season will do battle in the losers’ pool where they can vie for the bottom 10 awards. In this way, all members will get to participate till the end.

As for your NBA suggestion, I’m against incorporating it together with the Soccer because not everyone is well versed with NBA. I for one knows nothing about it. 

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In the early days of TC, once you reach AB$0 you are out of the competition. We have no intention to go backwards.

For NBA, not many are familiar with it and partly because the games are in a awkward timing so we will not implement this. We used to have NBA odds on the homepage but removed it as the viewership is too low for us to support it.
 



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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
In the early days of TC, once you reach AB$0 you are out of the competition. We have no intention to go backwards.

For NBA, not many are familiar with it and partly because the games are in a awkward timing so we will not implement this. We used to have NBA odds on the homepage but removed it as the viewership is too low for us to support it.




Bro, I understand that the proposer is simply trying to make TC realistic as in our own real life betting where our pocket limit’s concerned. Would my counter-proposal of the winners and losers pool be feasible then somewhere down the road?




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quote originally posted by wembly:

In line with your suggestion, I think what’s better is that those who has gone negative during the course of the season will do battle in the losers’ pool where they can vie for the bottom 10 awards. In this way, all members will get to participate till the end.
As for your NBA suggestion, I’m against incorporating it together with the Soccer because not everyone is well versed with NBA. I for one knows nothing about it. 
This message was edited by wembly on 13-Mar-2019 at 3:23 AM


then u need a cutoff date to decide minus account tipsters go to different pool




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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:

In the early days of TC, once you reach AB$0 you are out of the competition. We have no intention to go backwards.
For NBA, not many are familiar with it and partly because the games are in a awkward timing so we will not implement this. We used to have NBA odds on the homepage but removed it as the viewership is too low for us to support it.
 


dear owner, for sure it is your call.
what about stakes from the beginning?
what about bonus for x winning streak? to spur tipster to win continuously




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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

then u need a cutoff date to decide minus account tipsters go to different pool




No cutoff date needed.
The moment one reaches negative territory, be it on the second day or second last day, he’ll go over to the losers’ pool to compete for the bottom 10 award. 
In that sense, the later one goes over, the lesser the chance of winning (finishing bottom that is) also.
My suggestion is purely so that everyone can compete till the end and no one will be left out.
TC is a useful guide for our own bets as well. It’s not right to not let one continue participating at any point in time.

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quote originally posted by wembly:

No cutoff date needed.
The moment one reaches negative territory, be it on the second day or second last day, he’ll go over to the losers’ pool to compete for the bottom 10 award. 
In that sense, the later one goes over, the lesser the chance of winning (finishing bottom that is) also.
My suggestion is purely so that everyone can compete till the end and no one will be left out.
TC is a useful guide for our own bets as well. It’s not right to not let one continue participating at any point in time.
This message was edited by wembly on 13-Mar-2019 at 5:06 AM


it is ab call
good?




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quote originally posted by wembly:
Bro, I understand that the proposer is simply trying to make TC realistic as in our own real life betting where our pocket limit’s concerned. Would my counter-proposal of the winners and losers pool be feasible then somewhere down the road?


 @wembly I'm not sure if calling it a "losers" pool is a good idea. No one likes to be called a loser. It may make TC too confusing to have 2 pools and not many will understand if there are too many mechanisms in place. 2 months for each season is a long time and I've seen quite often tipsters from negative rise to win the top 50. Lets keep it simple, top 50 and bottom 10. Along with top for epl, isa, spl, gbl and fra1. I want to observe how this bottom 10 medal will work out first


quote originally posted by peacenjoy:


dear owner, for sure it is your call.
what about stakes from the beginning?
what about bonus for x winning streak? to spur tipster to win continuously



 @peacenjoy  I like this idea of bonus for winning streak. Perhaps bonus for 5/7/10 streak for one time in the season. (Tipster will not get multiple 5 streak bonuses) 
 



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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:

 @wembly I'm not sure if calling it a "losers" pool is a good idea. No one likes to be called a loser. It may make TC too confusing to have 2 pools and not many will understand if there are too many mechanisms in place. 2 months for each season is a long time and I've seen quite often tipsters from negative rise to win the top 50. Lets keep it simple, top 50 and bottom 10. Along with top for epl, isa, spl, gbl and fra1. I want to observe how this bottom 10 medal will work out first
quote originally posted by peacenjoy:







dear owner, for sure it is your call.
what about stakes from the beginning?
what about bonus for x winning streak? to spur tipster to win continuously



 @peacenjoy  I like this idea of bonus for winning streak. Perhaps bonus for 5/7/10 streak for one time in the season. (Tipster will not get multiple 5 streak bonuses) 
 



perhaps add parlay too, to spur up the mood. parlay max stake has to be defined. ?




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perhaps add a rule such as parlay within own league, etc...




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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
 @wembly I'm not sure if calling it a "losers" pool is a good idea. No one likes to be called a loser. It may make TC too confusing to have 2 pools and not many will understand if there are too many mechanisms in place. 2 months for each season is a long time and I've seen quite often tipsters from negative rise to win the top 50. Lets keep it simple, top 50 and bottom 10. Along with top for epl, isa, spl, gbl and fra1. I want to observe how this bottom 10 medal will work out first


quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

dear owner, for sure it is your call.
what about stakes from the beginning?
what about bonus for x winning streak? to spur tipster to win continuously



 @peacenjoy  I like this idea of bonus for winning streak. Perhaps bonus for 5/7/10 streak for one time in the season. (Tipster will not get multiple 5 streak bonuses) 




I was only giving an alternative to peacenjoy’s suggestion as I don’t agree that members should be disqualified from TC upon hitting negative figures. I’m all for TC remaining status quo.




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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:


perhaps add parlay too, to spur up the mood. parlay max stake has to be defined. ?



Perhaps you can re-suggest this for next TC simply because as it is now, Mr AB has implemented the ‘bottom10’ and will be looking into your 5/7/10 winning streak bonus.
Any implementations, when new, will definitely have some teething issues. Let’s just try to iron out issues as they re-surface slowly. 

For parlays, the max odds/winnings must be capped because it’s not good if someone were to finish in the top 50 by hitting one parlay with gigantic odds while doing nothing for the season.
I’ve referred you to webmaster’s reply to a suggestion by ciensuk re the introduction of 1x2 fixed odds for TC.
Do read it ok?

Bro, this is purely my input.
Final decision always lie with Mr AB.
  

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quote originally posted by AsianBookie:
 @wembly I'm not sure if calling it a "losers" pool is a good idea. No one likes to be called a loser. It may make TC too confusing to have 2 pools and not many will understand if there are too many mechanisms in place. 2 months for each season is a long time and I've seen quite often tipsters from negative rise to win the top 50. Lets keep it simple, top 50 and bottom 10. Along with top for epl, isa, spl, gbl and fra1. I want to observe how this bottom 10 medal will work out first


quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

dear owner, for sure it is your call.
what about stakes from the beginning?
what about bonus for x winning streak? to spur tipster to win continuously



 @peacenjoy  I like this idea of bonus for winning streak. Perhaps bonus for 5/7/10 streak for one time in the season. (Tipster will not get multiple 5 streak bonuses) 



 @AsianBookie,
if so, then should we have negative bonus for losing streak as well?
This serves as an incentive for the bottom 10 and a penalty for the top 50.
Otherwise, bonus for winning streak will penalize those vying for the bottom 10 with no incentive as compensation.
 

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quote originally posted by wembly:

Perhaps you can re-suggest this for next TC simply because as it is now, Mr AB has implemented the ‘bottom10’ and will be looking into your 5/7/10 winning streak bonus.
Any implementations, when new, will definitely have some teething issues. Let’s just try to iron out issues as they re-surface slowly. 
For parlays, the max odds/winnings must be capped because it’s not good if someone were to finish in the top 50 by hitting one parlay with gigantic odds while doing nothing for the season.
I’ve referred you to webmaster’s reply to a suggestion by ciensuk re the introduction of 1x2 fixed odds for TC.
Do read it ok?
Bro, this is purely my input.
Final decision always lie with Mr AB.
  
This message was edited by wembly on 20-Mar-2019 at 3:25 PM


bro
i suggested there b a rule for governing parlay. example max bet is capped, only can parlay within a league, and etc




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the details, the implementation, if ab embraces it, then ab can think about it...i was just suggesting a general idea
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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:
the details, the implementation, if ab embraces it, then ab can think about it...i was just suggesting a general idea
thanks



I’m sure webmaster will seek your feedback as and when he takes in this proposal.
Thanks for putting thought into this bro.

To make TC realistic to real-life betting incorporating your ideas is feasible perhaps in a 1-month special edition like during the Euro 2020.  For normal TCs in the long run, I wouldn’t fancy it, for a selfish reason, cos I will be sidelined 1 week into TC after falling into negative territory.

This message was edited by wembly on 22-Mar-2019 at 3:36 AM




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