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Cerro Porteno Died.

Reason: TG 2.5 wasnt the highest of the 3 Tier Handicap Ruling. It was 2.75. Made a mistake on this one.

Guillermo Brown Died

Reason: Perhaps 2.25 wasnt the highest of the 3 Tier Handicap Ruling. 2.5 might be the one. But I was surprised that there was no goals in the game. Both teams had scored in the last 7-8 home and away games respectively.

La Paz cleared. It was a perfect odds for everything.

Important: The TG handicap die die must be the highest of the 3 Tier Handicap. Any missing criteria could be costly.

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ok noted.

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Bro online now?

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17-Apr 2012 Tuesday 12:08 AM (4395 days ago)

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quote originally posted by hanshen888:

Bro online now?

yup. nothing much tdy.

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Junior Member Posts: 4 Joined: 16 Apr 12 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	so where can i find the stats for opening odds? or you copied it down yourself?
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quote originally posted by Nine9:

Bro, I remembered you posting some NBA formula picks and had a claypot. Can you tell me how you arrive to those picks? It would be very useful for me... Thanks.

bro, i really forgot about that formula. as much as i can recall, its something like using past records as a gauge and go against the side which bookies want u to take. unfortunately, NBA is a league that provides free money to normal punters. U should just bet normally and u will win. It is not like football.

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quote originally posted by NostsKings:

so where can i find the stats for opening odds? or you copied it down yourself?

use 7m or nowgoal.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

yup. nothing much tdy.

Just now I was checking Orgryte vs Skovde AIK odds,

opening odds normal, but closing odds swee swee.

match start 5 mins 2 goals already haha

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quote originally posted by hanshen888:

no plate for me.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

no plate for me.

opening odds or closing odds more important?

Let say if only one of them meets the requirement.

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quote originally posted by hanshen888:

opening odds or closing odds more important?

Let say if only one of them meets the requirement.

This message was edited by hanshen888 on 17-Apr-2012 @ 2:20 AM

Opening is more prefered than closing.

Closing odds may be bookies tricks, heavy boat or traders' adjustment.

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quote originally posted by alvinn:

Hey bro, whose odds would be the best for usage?

doesnt matter. u can use opening odds from crown, SBOBET or whatever it is available at both webs. all traders and bookies uses the same skills.

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18-Apr 2012 Wednesday 7:46 AM (4393 days ago)

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How about Ergotelis - Levadiakos tomorrow?

Over Odds O/U Under Odds Time
1.01 2/2.5 0.89 04-17 17:40
1.07 2/2.5 0.83 04-17 15:47
1.02 2/2.5 0.88 04-17 15:46
1.05 2/2.5 0.85 04-17 15:44

Is 2.25 highest for 3 tier handicap for this game?

Ergotelis Handicap Levadiakos Time
0.74 0.5 1.19 04-18 02:13
0.78 0.5 1.13 04-18 00:47
0.78 0.5 1.13 04-18 00:31
0.77 0.5 1.12 04-18 00:30
0.78 0.5 1.13 04-18 00:29
0.77 0.5 1.12 04-17 22:17
0.80 0.5 1.08 04-17 19:29
0.83 0.5 1.05 04-17 19:22
0.86 0.5 1.02 04-17 19:21
0.83 0.5 1.05 04-17 19:19
0.86 0.5 1.02 04-17 18:40
0.83 0.5 1.05 04-17 18:32
0.80 0.5 1.08 04-17 17:37
0.82 0.5 1.06 04-17 17:35
0.85 0.5 1.03 04-17 17:31
0.80 0.5 1.08 04-17 16:23
0.76 0.5 1.13 04-17 16:20
0.85 0.5 1.03 04-17 14:32

Opening odds(under and give ball) are equal - 0.85, current odds are fulfilling the criteria (0.89 for under ball and 0.74 for give ball).

Is this a good example of taking over 2.25?

Thank you in advance! You are doing a great work!

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18-Apr 2012 Wednesday 9:27 AM (4393 days ago)

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

How about Ergotelis - Levadiakos tomorrow?

Over Odds O/U Under Odds Time
1.01 2/2.5 0.89 04-17 17:40
1.07 2/2.5 0.83 04-17 15:47
1.02 2/2.5 0.88 04-17 15:46
1.05 2/2.5 0.85 04-17 15:44

Is 2.25 highest for 3 tier handicap for this game?

Ergotelis Handicap Levadiakos Time
0.74 0.5 1.19 04-18 02:13
0.78 0.5 1.13 04-18 00:47
0.78 0.5 1.13 04-18 00:31
0.77 0.5 1.12 04-18 00:30
0.78 0.5 1.13 04-18 00:29
0.77 0.5 1.12 04-17 22:17
0.80 0.5 1.08 04-17 19:29
0.83 0.5 1.05 04-17 19:22
0.86 0.5 1.02 04-17 19:21
0.83 0.5 1.05 04-17 19:19
0.86 0.5 1.02 04-17 18:40
0.83 0.5 1.05 04-17 18:32
0.80 0.5 1.08 04-17 17:37
0.82 0.5 1.06 04-17 17:35
0.85 0.5 1.03 04-17 17:31
0.80 0.5 1.08 04-17 16:23
0.76 0.5 1.13 04-17 16:20
0.85 0.5 1.03 04-17 14:32

Opening odds(under and give ball) are equal - 0.85, current odds are fulfilling the criteria (0.89 for under ball and 0.74 for give ball).

Is this a good example of taking over 2.25?

Thank you in advance! You are doing a great work!This message was edited by BogdanT on 18-Apr-2012 @ 7:49 AM

Greek games 3 Tier = 2, 2.25, 2.5.

2.25 is quite normal for a greek game.

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Upcoming game at 2130hrs:

Dolcan Zabki	Handicap	Arka Gdynia	Update Time
1.18	+0	0.7	2012-04-18 14:21:23
1.17	+0	0.71	2012-04-18 14:19:47
1.14	+0	0.74	2012-04-18 14:19:07
1.11	+0	0.77	2012-04-18 13:59:28
1.14	+0	0.74	2012-04-18 13:58:57
1.11	+0	0.77	2012-04-18 04:14:35
1.11	+0	0.75	2012-04-16 19:14:41
1.06	+0	0.8	2012-04-16 18:54:07
1.01	+0	0.85	2012-04-16 17:54:56(Initial)

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1.12	2.5/3	0.74	04:14 18/04/2012
1.1	2.5/3	0.74	17:54 16/04/2012(Initial)

Opening odds did not fit the criteria as give ball water money is higher than under ball water money but now seems like it is getting lower than the under ball water money. Keep a look out on this game

Polish games usually 2, 2.25, 2.5

Polish division 1 i believe is 2.25, 2.5, 2.75

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

Greek games 3 Tier = 2, 2.25, 2.5.

2.25 is quite normal for a greek game.

So in this case, if 2.25 is not the biggest value of the 3 Tier, better skip the game? Everything is clear for me except this..

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

So in this case, if 2.25 is not the biggest value of the 3 Tier, better skip the game? Everything is clear for me except this..

Yes avoid the risk.guys pls avoid the 2130 polish game as well.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

Yes avoid the risk.guys pls avoid the 2130 polish game as well.

Hi Klavier, any gd bets?

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Upcoming 2200hrs Polish game:

Ruch Radzionkow	Handicap	Pogon Szczecin	Update Time
1.18	+0	0.7	2012-04-18 20:35:51
1.15	+0	0.73	2012-04-18 20:02:11
1.09	+0	0.79	2012-04-18 19:53:30
1.06	+0	0.82	2012-04-18 19:12:19
1.09	+0	0.79	2012-04-18 16:55:06
1.06	+0	0.82	2012-04-18 16:53:50
1.12	+0	0.76	2012-04-18 04:14:57
1.1	+0	0.76	2012-04-16 20:14:22
1.12	+0	0.74	2012-04-16 18:54:49
1.08	+0	0.78	2012-04-16 18:54:11
1.04	+0	0.82	2012-04-16 17:34:20(Initial)

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1.08	2.5	0.78	20:18 18/04/2012
1	2.5	0.86	20:17 18/04/2012
0.96	2.5	0.9	16:11 18/04/2012
0.93	2.5	0.93	04:34 18/04/2012
0.92	2.5	0.94	04:14 18/04/2012
0.92	2.5	0.92	17:34 16/04/2012(Initial)

Opening odds and closing odds fits all criteria except 2.5 is not the highest of the 3 Tier Handicap.

I believe it is worth some money on over.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

Yes avoid the risk.guys pls avoid the 2130 polish game as well.

Hey bro kind to explain why avoid the polish game? I thought it hits all the criteria unless i missed something...thanks!

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quote originally posted by SlackerZ:

Hey bro kind to explain why avoid the polish game? I thought it hits all the criteria unless i missed something...thanks!

Firstly, opening odds did not fit the criteria. level ball win 85 but under win 74

Closing odds level win 61 under win 64 fits criteria at crown odds but SBOBET level win 67 under win 65.

i was kind of unsure and hence, I suggest to avoid.

However, as I was typing its 1-1 now. So if u wanna bet can try small on over 3.25. Seems like will have min 3 goals now.

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18-Apr 2012 Wednesday 10:25 PM (4393 days ago)

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Ok understood. Well it's better to be careful. Still a long week.

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Ruch 1-0 9 min.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

Ruch 1-0 9 min.

Hope by ht can be at least 2 goals

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Upcoming 12 am game:

Metta/LU Riga	Handicap	FC Jurmala	Update Time
1.27	+0	0.55	2012-04-18 23:46:38
1.22	+0	0.6	2012-04-18 18:00:19
1.17	+0	0.65	2012-04-18 17:40:21
1.22	+0	0.6	2012-04-18 17:39:04
1.07	+0	0.75	2012-04-18 16:20:17
1.02	+0	0.8	2012-04-18 15:45:34(Initial)

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1.01	2.5	0.79	18:40 18/04/2012
0.9	2.5	0.9	16:08 18/04/2012
0.89	2.5	0.91	16:00 18/04/2012
0.95	2.5	0.85	15:45 18/04/2012(Initial)

Perfect except I dunno if 2.5 for such Latvia game is the highest of the 3 Tier.

Bet at ur own risk.

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19-Apr 2012 Thursday 1:05 AM (4393 days ago)

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Up coming game for 1.30am:

Bidvest Wits	Handicap	Ajax Cape Town	Update Time
0.71	0	1.11	2012-04-19 00:57:12
0.76	0	1.06	2012-04-19 00:09:59
0.81	0	1.01	2012-04-18 19:42:00
0.86	0	0.96	2012-04-18 14:03:38
0.83	0	0.99	2012-04-18 13:58:57
0.88	0	0.94	2012-04-18 12:33:01
0.83	0	0.99	2012-04-18 06:54:48
0.88	0	0.94	2012-04-17 20:15:27(Initial)

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0.96	2.5	0.84	15:15 18/04/2012
0.9	2.5	0.9	15:15 18/04/2012
1.05	2.5	0.75	20:15 17/04/2012(Initial)

South Africa games = 2, 2.25, 2.5

Opening odds level ball water money is higher than under water money. Not perfect.

Current odds looks perfect. Worth to bet. DURIANS SHOULD DROP.

If closing odds not nice, kindly avoid.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

Firstly, opening odds did not fit the criteria. level ball win 85 but under win 74

Closing odds level win 61 under win 64 fits criteria at crown odds but SBOBET level win 67 under win 65.

i was kind of unsure and hence, I suggest to avoid.

However, as I was typing its 1-1 now. So if u wanna bet can try small on over 3.25. Seems like will have min 3 goals now.

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19-Apr 2012 Thursday 2:43 AM (4393 days ago)

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quote originally posted by kokster85:

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power of details level win 67 under win 65 just 2 cents only can make u lose.

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19-Apr 2012 Thursday 3:22 AM (4393 days ago)

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Tough luck on the South African game. Not much to choose from for today.

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Ahsnow Find all Topics Started by Ahsnow Find all Posts by Ahsnow Follow / Unfollow PM Ahsnow		19-Apr 2012 Thursday 10:26 PM (4392 days ago)	#33
Active Member Posts: 53 Liked By: 28 Joined: 20 Jun 10 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	hi bro i have been reading yo tread there is something i still not quite sure what u mean by 3 Tier is it fix for some league?? 2nd is this theory can only apply to bookie or online betting but not on singaporepool can i say so??
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quote originally posted by Ahsnow:

hi bro i have been reading yo tread there is something i still not quite sure what u mean by 3 Tier is it fix for some league??

2nd is this theory can only apply to bookie or online betting but not on singaporepool can i say so??

yes only online asian handicap odds. not for singaporepools.

singaporepools got too many factors to consider due to the fact they can only open -1.5 -2.5 or over 2.5 and over 3.5 or even -1,-1 draw or +1. Main reason is to avoid refunds.

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Ahsnow Find all Topics Started by Ahsnow Find all Posts by Ahsnow Follow / Unfollow PM Ahsnow		19-Apr 2012 Thursday 11:21 PM (4392 days ago)	#35
Active Member Posts: 53 Liked By: 28 Joined: 20 Jun 10 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	and how to know 3 Tier is it fix for some league?? or how can i calculate it?? sorry that i am so stupid to understand a simple thing like this
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quote originally posted by Ahsnow:

and how to know 3 Tier is it fix for some league?? or how can i calculate it?? sorry that i am so stupid to understand a simple thing like this

there is no way to calculate it unless u have the stats the bookies possessed.

the only way is experience and i have shared mine. so should be easier for u bro.

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20-Apr 2012 Friday 2:30 AM (4392 days ago)

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Bro Smart_koh rose an alert for this game at 10am:

AD Belen Siglo	Handicap	Limon FC	Update Time
0.77	0.5/1	1.05	2012-04-20 02:13:16
0.72	0.5/1	1.1	2012-04-20 01:42:36
0.77	0.5/1	1.05	2012-04-20 01:41:56
0.82	0.5/1	1	2012-04-20 01:32:05
0.77	0.5/1	1.05	2012-04-20 01:30:49
0.72	0.5/1	1.1	2012-04-20 00:26:21
0.77	0.5/1	1.05	2012-04-19 20:59:05
0.82	0.5/1	1	2012-04-19 19:59:49
0.77	0.5/1	1.05	2012-04-19 17:12:39(Initial)

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0.96	2.5/3	0.84	02:27 20/04/2012
1.02	2.5/3	0.78	02:26 20/04/2012
0.9	2.5/3	0.9	02:26 20/04/2012
1.02	2.5/3	0.78	01:54 20/04/2012
1.08	2.5/3	0.72	01:04 20/04/2012
1.14	2.5/3	0.66	21:05 19/04/2012
1.2	2.5/3	0.6	18:33 19/04/2012
1.15	2.5/3	0.65	18:29 19/04/2012
1.04	2.5/3	0.76	18:23 19/04/2012
0.9	2.5/3	0.9	17:12 19/04/2012(Initial)

Costa Rica 3 Tier Handicap = 2.25, 2.5, 2.75

Give ball water money very steadily below Under ball water money. Odds traders didnt change their minds. DURIANS COULD DROP GOOD IN THIS GAME.

The game can bet if odds stays perfect like this before KO.

Lets be prudent shall we?

ALL 4 CRITERIAS MUST BE MET DURING OPENING AND CLOSING ODDS. NO MORE HERE AND THERE.

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Reference changed from 2.75 to 2.5. Is it too risky?

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

Reference changed from 2.75 to 2.5. Is it too risky?

yes its risky but eventually over big time. i didnt managed to follow till KO. slept thru out the day.

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Derp Find all Topics Started by Derp Find all Posts by Derp Follow / Unfollow PM Derp		21-Apr 2012 Saturday 8:59 PM (4390 days ago)	#40
Active Member Posts: 50 Liked By: 10 Joined: 05 Feb 12 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	Just wanna check with you, if opening is 2.5 and fits all the criteria, but it went up to over 2.75 before match starts, and 2.75 doesn't fit the criteria, is it still safe to take over 2.5 since it met all the criteria?
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quote originally posted by Derp:

Just wanna check with you, if opening is 2.5 and fits all the criteria, but it went up to over 2.75 before match starts, and 2.75 doesn't fit the criteria, is it still safe to take over 2.5 since it met all the criteria?

one of the criteria is to avoid handicap changes for either AHO or TG. Since I have not extensively taught you guys other kinds of odds signals it is best to avoid.

besides I am still learning as we speak. I would probably say I understand only 55-60% of the odds traders signals.

In order to be precised, it is essential to understand the 3 Tier Handicap Ruling before reading any odds signals.

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21-Apr 2012 Saturday 9:21 PM (4390 days ago)

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To Derp:

Below is an excellent example for upcoming 2130 game:

Hoffenheim	Handicap	Bayer Leverkusen	Update Time
0.84	0	1.07	2012-04-21 21:04:31
1.12	0/0.5	0.79	2012-04-21 20:55:20
1.11	0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-21 20:27:34
1.13	0/0.5	0.78	2012-04-21 20:02:24
1.12	0/0.5	0.79	2012-04-21 19:49:01
1.11	0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-21 19:17:23
1.1	0/0.5	0.81	2012-04-21 18:35:11
1.09	0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-21 18:33:23
1.08	0/0.5	0.83	2012-04-21 18:24:49
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 18:21:23
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 17:48:49
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 17:44:28
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 17:15:30
1.08	0/0.5	0.83	2012-04-21 17:04:20
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 16:56:20
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 16:45:19
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 16:30:57
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 15:48:37
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 15:45:56
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 15:01:54
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 14:25:34
1.04	0/0.5	0.87	2012-04-21 14:24:35
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 14:09:32
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 14:08:33
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 13:28:39
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 13:21:47
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 12:20:41
1.04	0/0.5	0.87	2012-04-21 10:36:09
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 06:38:59
1.06	0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-21 04:57:28
1.08	0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-21 04:35:29
1.04	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 00:35:24
1.02	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-20 17:35:57
1.04	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-20 08:14:35
1.06	0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-16 22:34:32
1.03	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-16 22:14:38
0.81	0	1.07	2012-04-16 19:15:06
0.84	0	1.04	2012-04-16 17:14:31
0.87	0	1.01	2012-04-16 16:54:12(Initial)

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Under

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0.95	2.5/3	0.95	21:03 21/04/2012
0.93	2.5/3	0.97	20:55 21/04/2012
0.94	2.5/3	0.96	20:49 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.95	20:02 21/04/2012
0.94	2.5/3	0.96	19:48 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.95	19:38 21/04/2012
0.94	2.5/3	0.96	19:29 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.95	19:04 21/04/2012
0.96	2.5/3	0.94	18:24 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.94	18:21 21/04/2012
0.92	2.5/3	0.97	16:09 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.94	14:04 21/04/2012
0.98	2.5/3	0.91	13:25 21/04/2012
1.01	2.5/3	0.88	12:33 21/04/2012
0.99	2.5/3	0.9	06:38 21/04/2012
0.96	2.5/3	0.9	03:14 20/04/2012
0.93	2.5/3	0.93	13:28 19/04/2012
0.96	2.5/3	0.9	21:35 16/04/2012
0.78	2.5	1.08	21:14 16/04/2012
0.8	2.5	1.06	17:54 16/04/2012
0.77	2.5	1.09	16:54 16/04/2012(Initial)

Opening odds signals to me it is favouring over to clear at this game.

Closing odds signals seems like Lesson 1 Odds signals since Hoffenheim 3 Tier Handicap is 2.75 and hence I would interpret as bookies confidence on over ball for this game.

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22-Apr 2012 Sunday 9:36 AM (4389 days ago)

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

To Derp:

Below is an excellent example for upcoming 2130 game:

Hoffenheim	Handicap	Bayer Leverkusen	Update Time
0.84	0	1.07	2012-04-21 21:04:31
1.12	0/0.5	0.79	2012-04-21 20:55:20
1.11	0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-21 20:27:34
1.13	0/0.5	0.78	2012-04-21 20:02:24
1.12	0/0.5	0.79	2012-04-21 19:49:01
1.11	0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-21 19:17:23
1.1	0/0.5	0.81	2012-04-21 18:35:11
1.09	0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-21 18:33:23
1.08	0/0.5	0.83	2012-04-21 18:24:49
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 18:21:23
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 17:48:49
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 17:44:28
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 17:15:30
1.08	0/0.5	0.83	2012-04-21 17:04:20
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 16:56:20
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 16:45:19
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 16:30:57
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 15:48:37
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 15:45:56
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 15:01:54
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 14:25:34
1.04	0/0.5	0.87	2012-04-21 14:24:35
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 14:09:32
1.07	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 14:08:33
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 13:28:39
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 13:21:47
1.05	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-21 12:20:41
1.04	0/0.5	0.87	2012-04-21 10:36:09
1.06	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-21 06:38:59
1.06	0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-21 04:57:28
1.08	0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-21 04:35:29
1.04	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-21 00:35:24
1.02	0/0.5	0.86	2012-04-20 17:35:57
1.04	0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-20 08:14:35
1.06	0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-16 22:34:32
1.03	0/0.5	0.85	2012-04-16 22:14:38
0.81	0	1.07	2012-04-16 19:15:06
0.84	0	1.04	2012-04-16 17:14:31
0.87	0	1.01	2012-04-16 16:54:12(Initial)

Over

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Under

Time Updated

0.95	2.5/3	0.95	21:03 21/04/2012
0.93	2.5/3	0.97	20:55 21/04/2012
0.94	2.5/3	0.96	20:49 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.95	20:02 21/04/2012
0.94	2.5/3	0.96	19:48 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.95	19:38 21/04/2012
0.94	2.5/3	0.96	19:29 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.95	19:04 21/04/2012
0.96	2.5/3	0.94	18:24 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.94	18:21 21/04/2012
0.92	2.5/3	0.97	16:09 21/04/2012
0.95	2.5/3	0.94	14:04 21/04/2012
0.98	2.5/3	0.91	13:25 21/04/2012
1.01	2.5/3	0.88	12:33 21/04/2012
0.99	2.5/3	0.9	06:38 21/04/2012
0.96	2.5/3	0.9	03:14 20/04/2012
0.93	2.5/3	0.93	13:28 19/04/2012
0.96	2.5/3	0.9	21:35 16/04/2012
0.78	2.5	1.08	21:14 16/04/2012
0.8	2.5	1.06	17:54 16/04/2012
0.77	2.5	1.09	16:54 16/04/2012(Initial)

Opening odds signals to me it is favouring over to clear at this game.

Closing odds signals seems like Lesson 1 Odds signals since Hoffenheim 3 Tier Handicap is 2.75 and hence I would interpret as bookies confidence on over ball for this game.

This is why I cant stress further on the Opening and Closing odds must hit all criterias. Uncertainty is too high to make winning bets.

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22-Apr 2012 Sunday 9:49 AM (4389 days ago)

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I have shortlisted some games here. I will discuss further if the outcome of the odds movement are good near KO times.

10PM:

NK Mura 05	Handicap	NK Rudar Velenje	Update Time
0.55	0	1.27	2012-04-21 22:34:26
0.5	0	1.32	2012-04-21 12:14:27
0.45	0	1.37	2012-04-21 04:58:51
0.74	0	1.08	2012-04-21 02:55:05
0.69	0	1.13	2012-04-19 21:36:03
0.64	0	1.18	2012-04-19 20:37:01
0.63	0	1.19	2012-04-19 20:18:43
0.772	0	1.048	2012-04-18 22:55:32(Initial)

Over

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Under

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0.86	2.5/3	0.94	23:35 20/04/2012
0.8	2.5/3	1	18:36 19/04/2012
0.86	2.5/3	0.94	18:21 19/04/2012
0.92	2.5/3	0.88	22:55 18/04/2012(Initial)

1.15AM:

Mlada Boleslav	Handicap	Sparta Praha	Update Time
1.15	+0/0.5	0.75	2012-04-22 09:35:42
1.12	+0/0.5	0.78	2012-04-22 06:55:28
1.14	+0/0.5	0.76	2012-04-22 06:35:19
1.14	+0/0.5	0.74	2012-04-21 22:14:48
1.18	+0/0.5	0.7	2012-04-16 21:14:38
1.11	+0/0.5	0.77	2012-04-16 20:54:13
1.08	+0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-16 20:34:24(Initial)

Over

O/U

Under

Time Updated

0.98	2.5	0.88	07:15 22/04/2012
1.03	2.5	0.83	05:14 18/04/2012
0.98	2.5	0.88	17:14 17/04/2012
0.93	2.5	0.93	20:34 16/04/2012(Initial)

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22-Apr 2012 Sunday 9:32 PM (4389 days ago)

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Under odds are bigger than over odds for slovenian game. Should we still consider this match?

Thank you in advance!

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

Under odds are bigger than over odds for slovenian game. Should we still consider this match?

Thank you in advance!

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sorry bro was afk since last afternoon. i have stressed the importance of 4 criteria being met at opening and closing odds. lets review on the slovenia game.

NK Mura 05	Handicap	NK Rudar Velenje	Update Time
0.5	0	1.32	2012-04-22 21:10:51
0.53	0	1.29	2012-04-22 21:07:08
0.55	0	1.27	2012-04-22 20:48:25
0.5	0	1.32	2012-04-22 19:39:47
0.54	0	1.28	2012-04-22 16:51:15
0.55	0	1.27	2012-04-21 22:34:26
0.5	0	1.32	2012-04-21 12:14:27
0.45	0	1.37	2012-04-21 04:58:51
0.74	0	1.08	2012-04-21 02:55:05
0.69	0	1.13	2012-04-19 21:36:03
0.64	0	1.18	2012-04-19 20:37:01
0.63	0	1.19	2012-04-19 20:18:43
0.772	0	1.048	2012-04-18 22:55:32(Initial)

Over

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Under

Time Updated

0.86	2.5/3	0.94	21:13 22/04/2012
0.92	2.5/3	0.88	16:22 22/04/2012
0.86	2.5/3	0.94	23:35 20/04/2012
0.8	2.5/3	1	18:36 19/04/2012
0.86	2.5/3	0.94	18:21 19/04/2012
0.92	2.5/3	0.88	22:55 18/04/2012(Initial)

Closing odds: Over ball water money becomes lower than under ball. Ended up the result is nowhere near over due to criteria not met.

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0.96	+0/0.5	0.93	2012-04-23 01:14:48
0.94	+0/0.5	0.95	2012-04-23 01:11:17
1	+0/0.5	0.89	2012-04-23 01:09:49
0.94	+0/0.5	0.95	2012-04-23 01:08:11
0.92	+0/0.5	0.97	2012-04-23 01:06:53
0.96	+0/0.5	0.93	2012-04-23 01:05:55
0.94	+0/0.5	0.95	2012-04-23 01:04:08
0.97	+0/0.5	0.92	2012-04-23 01:02:29
0.95	+0/0.5	0.94	2012-04-23 01:00:21
0.93	+0/0.5	0.96	2012-04-23 00:56:48
0.92	+0/0.5	0.97	2012-04-23 00:54:35
0.9	+0/0.5	0.99	2012-04-23 00:53:17
0.92	+0/0.5	0.97	2012-04-23 00:52:27
0.94	+0/0.5	0.95	2012-04-23 00:49:35
1.06	+0/0.5	0.84	2012-04-23 00:47:36
1.08	+0/0.5	0.82	2012-04-23 00:42:01
1.1	+0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-23 00:39:40
1.18	+0/0.5	0.72	2012-04-23 00:32:12
1.2	+0/0.5	0.7	2012-04-23 00:26:05
1.19	+0/0.5	0.71	2012-04-23 00:25:34
1.17	+0/0.5	0.73	2012-04-22 22:03:44
1.13	+0/0.5	0.77	2012-04-22 21:37:01
1.15	+0/0.5	0.75	2012-04-22 18:56:10
1.13	+0/0.5	0.77	2012-04-22 16:35:51
1.16	+0/0.5	0.74	2012-04-22 15:54:49
1.18	+0/0.5	0.72	2012-04-22 15:40:11
1.14	+0/0.5	0.76	2012-04-22 15:36:05
1.13	+0/0.5	0.77	2012-04-22 14:11:23
1.11	+0/0.5	0.79	2012-04-22 13:57:27
1.13	+0/0.5	0.77	2012-04-22 13:30:34
1.15	+0/0.5	0.75	2012-04-22 09:35:42
1.12	+0/0.5	0.78	2012-04-22 06:55:28
1.14	+0/0.5	0.76	2012-04-22 06:35:19
1.14	+0/0.5	0.74	2012-04-21 22:14:48
1.18	+0/0.5	0.7	2012-04-16 21:14:38
1.11	+0/0.5	0.77	2012-04-16 20:54:13
1.08	+0/0.5	0.8	2012-04-16 20:34:24(Initial)

1.03	2.5	0.83	01:14 23/04/2012
1.07	2.5	0.79	01:12 23/04/2012
1.11	2.5	0.75	01:08 23/04/2012
0.97	2.5	0.89	01:03 23/04/2012
1.01	2.5	0.85	00:55 23/04/2012
0.97	2.5	0.89	00:36 23/04/2012
1.01	2.5	0.85	15:41 22/04/2012
1.06	2.5	0.8	15:40 22/04/2012
0.98	2.5	0.88	07:15 22/04/2012
1.03	2.5	0.83	05:14 18/04/2012
0.98	2.5	0.88	17:14 17/04/2012
0.93	2.5	0.93	20:34 16/04/2012(Initial)

Closing odds: Criteria not met before closing. Give ball water money higher than Under ball water money. FT under 2-0!

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Thank you bro!

I also skipped the two matches because of these reasons. However, I took DC United - New York last night and it ended 4-1.

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Bro, what's the 3 Tier for Portugal 1st league?

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

Bro, what's the 3 Tier for Portugal 1st league?

Thank you!

very easy.

2, 2.25 , 2.5

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Thank you for your fast reply!

Can you please help me with a few other leagues? I'm starting to get used to your strategy and it works like a charm!

Argentina 2nd division
Italian Serie B
Costa Rica
Spanish Segunda
French League 2
Columbia
Iceland
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Peru
Poland
Romania
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Thank you in advance bro!

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

Thank you for your fast reply!

Can you please help me with a few other leagues? I'm starting to get used to your strategy and it works like a charm!

Argentina 2nd division
Italian Serie B
Costa Rica
Spanish Segunda
French League 2
Columbia
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Thank you in advance bro!This message was edited by BogdanT on 24-Apr-2012 @ 3:14 AM

Arg 2 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Ita 2 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Cos 1 = 2.25, 2.5 , 2.75
Spa 2 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Fra 2 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Col 1 = 2.25, 2.5 , 2.75
Ice 1 = 2.75, 3, 3.25
Par 1 = 2.25 , 2.5, 2.75
Peru 1 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Pol 1 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Rom 1 = 2, 2.25, 2.5
Aus 1 = 2, 2.25 , 2.5

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Thank you very much!

Good luck in everything you do!

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Junior Member Posts: 2 Joined: 24 Apr 12 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	Good evening I'm new to the forum and I'm really interested to understand your strategy. But I'm sorry I'm lost in all messages you might make a small summary of what to look in the odds of under and over and with these numbers is what you are doing calculations. 7m i use to have the same odds as you but after I lost I do not know what to do. excuse me for my English because I am French. thk you for all if you accepted to help me
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quote originally posted by kiloupo:

Good evening I'm new to the forum and I'm really interested to understand your strategy. But I'm sorry I'm lost in all messages you might make a small summary of what to look in the odds of under and over and with these numbers is what you are doing calculations.
7m i use to have the same odds as you but after I lost I do not know what to do.
excuse me for my English because I am French.

thk you for all if you accepted to help me

The most important are the 5 rules posted by bro KlavierJoenessGavin:

"1. The total goal given must be the highest of the 3 Tier Handicap

2. Opening odds and closing odds must be under same condition where give ball water money is lower than under ball regardless of how the water money drop or rise.

3. Total goal and asian handicap must remain same level.

4. The Over odd water money must be higher than Under odd water money. Cannot both sides win same odd. *IMPORTANT*

5. Odds are based on many famous and major bookies."

For the 3 Tier Handicap, check the dedicated thread and watch the values posted for each league.

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Bro KlavierJoenessGavin, can you please help me with the Bolivian Clausura 3 Tier Handicap?

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Potential over game:

22:45 ! Live	Busaiteen Manama Draw	2.27	0.0	0.77	2.50	o	0.96	o	1.00	3.15	0.0	0.89	1.0	o	0.98
		2.76		1.12		u	0.90	e	0.90	3.35		0.99		u	0.88
		3.15								1.98

Odds quite stagnant. Worth to bet.

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01:00 ! Live	Al Ain Al Jazira Abu Dhabi Draw	1.98	0-0.5	0.75	3.0	o	0.97	o	1.00	2.53	0-0.5	1.09	1-1.5	o	1.04
		3.25		1.14		u	0.89	e	0.90	4.30		0.79		u	0.82
		3.25								2.03

opening odds over ball water money is lower than under ball.

however, now it turns out to be like this. not perfect but of cos, worth to take notice and make a bet if u want.

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What do you think about
Concordia Chiajna(H)-vs-Vointa Sibiu
Limerick FC(H)-vs-Waterford United
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02:45 ! Live	UC Dublin Drogheda United Draw	3.60		1.25	2.50	o	1.00	o	1.00	3.45		0.68	1.0	o	1.00
		1.94	0-0.5	0.72		u	0.90	e	0.90	2.75	0-0.5	1.25		u	0.88
		3.50								2.14

same as the last one above.keep a look out.

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quote originally posted by villapark36:

@ KlavierJoenessGavin

What do you think about
Concordia Chiajna(H)-vs-Vointa Sibiu
Limerick FC(H)-vs-Waterford United
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02:45 ! Live	Limerick FC Waterford United Draw	1.48	0.5-1	0.65	2.50	o	0.98	o	1.00	2.06	0-0.5	0.76	1.0	o	0.98
		6.40		1.36		u	0.92	e	0.90	6.00		1.13		u	0.90
		4.00								2.12

2.5 is the highest of the 3 Tier in Irish games.

0.75 is a little steep as heavy burden on one side to break the over ball. However, i believe is worth a shot.

Concordia is 2.25. Not the highest of the 3 tier. Besides both water money on the AHO is win 90+.quite even might be under.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

02:45 ! Live	Limerick FC Waterford United Draw	1.48	0.5-1	0.65	2.50	o	0.98	o	1.00	2.06	0-0.5	0.76	1.0	o	0.98
		6.40		1.36		u	0.92	e	0.90	6.00		1.13		u	0.90
		4.00								2.12

2.5 is the highest of the 3 Tier in Irish games.

0.75 is a little steep as heavy burden on one side to break the over ball. However, i believe is worth a shot.

Concordia is 2.25. Not the highest of the 3 tier. Besides both water money on the AHO is win 90+.quite even might be under.

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I am back home after having a great night playing outside. Lets review the four games:

Final Odds:

Busaiteen

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Manama Club

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1.18

0/0.5

0.68

2012-04-27 21:27:26

0.97

2.5

0.87

22:14 27/04/2012

SBOBET bet open level ball all the way instead at Busaiteen win 72 at final water money with similar TG odds as above. I always take SBOBET bet odds as priority over all bookmakers. Hence, this over bet is a winner.

Al Ain

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Al-Jazira(UAE)

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0.7

0/0.5

1.16

2012-04-28 00:36:52

0.84

00:57 28/04/2012

Closing odds over water money is higher than under and not surprisingly over bet lost

UC Dublin(UCD)

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Drogheda United

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1.01

+0/0.5

0.89

2012-04-28 02:44:39

0.92

2.5

0.95

02:42 28/04/2012

Same scenario as above. Over bet lost.

Limerick FC

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Waterford United

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0.97

0.92

2012-04-28 02:39:46

0.9

2.5

0.96

02:43 28/04/2012

Limerick from 0.75 rose to 1 ball. Over water money become higher than under ball water money.

OVer bet lost. Remember one of the criteria: All handicap must not have changes. This is a reason why I mean always try to bet on stagnant odds.

Stagnant odds: No changes in handicaps, only changes in water money but the change of water money is still adhering to the criteria all the time. This is the games u should always follow and pick most of the time..

Look at Busaiteen odds flow:

1.18	0/0.5	0.68	2012-04-27 21:27:26
1.22	0/0.5	0.64	2012-04-27 21:25:54
1.26	0/0.5	0.6	2012-04-27 17:58:58
1.29	0/0.5	0.57	2012-04-27 17:55:07
1.26	0/0.5	0.6	2012-04-27 17:48:19
1.21	0/0.5	0.65	2012-04-27 17:27:05
1.16	0/0.5	0.7	2012-04-27 16:59:02
1.18	0/0.5	0.68	2012-04-27 16:56:22(Initial)

0.97	2.5	0.87	22:14 27/04/2012
0.92	2.5	0.92	16:56 27/04/2012(Initial)

Not much changes.

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Some bets I'm monitoring......(Initial)

Kashiwa Reysol -vs- Sagan Tosu

0.86 0.5 1.02

1.02 O/U 2.5 0.85

Schalke II-vs-Rot-Weiss Essen

0.77 0 1.12

0.96 O/U 2.5 0.90

Ebbsfleet United-vs-Lincoln City

0.75 0/0.5 1.14

0.96 O/U 2.75 0.90

Torino-vs-Crotone

0.85 0.5/1 1.03

0.96 O/U 2.75 0.90

Livingston-vs-Greenock Morton

0.82 0/0.5 1.08

0.98 O/U 2.75 0.90

NK Split-vs-Zagreb

0.84 0.5 1.04

1.01 O/U 2.25 0.85

CA River Plate(URU)-vs-Centro Atletico Fenix

0.87 0.5 0.97

0.92 O/U 2.75 0.90

FCB Melgar-vs-Jose Galvez Chimbole

0.64 0.5/1 1.25

1.07 O/U 2.5 0.75

Club Sport Emelec-vs-Independiente Jose Teran

0.69 0.5 1.17

0.92 O/U 2.5 0.90

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quote originally posted by villapark36:

Some bets I'm monitoring......(Initial)

Kashiwa Reysol -vs- Sagan Tosu

0.86 0.5 1.02

1.02 O/U 2.5 0.85

Reysol home i dun think 2.5 is the highest.Should be 2.75

Schalke II-vs-Rot-Weiss Essen

0.77 0 1.12

0.96 O/U 2.5 0.90

Same goes to this. Regionalliga 3 Tier: 2.5, 2.75, 3

Ebbsfleet United-vs-Lincoln City

0.75 0/0.5 1.14

0.96 O/U 2.75 0.90

Torino-vs-Crotone

0.85 0.5/1 1.03

0.96 O/U 2.75 0.90

Livingston-vs-Greenock Morton

0.82 0/0.5 1.08

0.98 O/U 2.75 0.90

NK Split-vs-Zagreb

0.84 0.5 1.04

1.01 O/U 2.25 0.85

Croatia highest is 2.5

CA River Plate(URU)-vs-Centro Atletico Fenix

0.87 0.5 0.97

0.92 O/U 2.75 0.90

FCB Melgar-vs-Jose Galvez Chimbole

0.64 0.5/1 1.25

1.07 O/U 2.5 0.75

Club Sport Emelec-vs-Independiente Jose Teran

0.69 0.5 1.17

0.92 O/U 2.5 0.90

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Bro, can use this strategy for S League? Tanjong Pagar is uncertain factor. Can score but Home looks like certainly to score even more.

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Bro, can use this strategy for S League? Tanjong Pagar is uncertain factor. Can score but Home looks like certainly to score even more.

of cos. but u need to know each teams 3 tier handicap.

like balestier home is Over 2.5 win full, Over 2.5 win 80, 2.75

Saf 2.75, 3, 3.25. etc.

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Over 2.75
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Livingston -vs- Greenock Morton

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Russia Premier League Playoff
23:00 ! Live	CSKA Moscow Spartak Moscow Draw	2.31	0.0	0.73	2.50	o	0.97	o	1.00	2.89	0.0	0.76	1.0	o	1.01
		3.00		1.23		u	0.93	e	0.90	3.50		1.13		u	0.87
		3.20								2.05

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

Russia Premier League Playoff
23:00 ! Live	CSKA Moscow Spartak Moscow Draw	2.31	0.0	0.73	2.50	o	0.97	o	1.00	2.89	0.0	0.76	1.0	o	1.01
		3.00		1.23		u	0.93	e	0.90	3.50		1.13		u	0.87
		3.20								2.05

Nail it!

looking good

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quote originally posted by villapark36:

looking good

won. next.

04/29 00:30	Bnei Yehuda Tel Aviv Maccabi Haifa Draw	2.79	0.0	1.14	2.50	o	1.05	o	1.00	3.35	0.0	1.05	1.0	o	1.11
		2.28		0.75		u	0.81	e	0.90	3.00		0.83		u	0.76
		3.10								2.03

nail it!

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00:30 ! Live	Stade Nyonnais Biel Bienne Draw	2.00	0-0.5	0.83	3.0	o	1.02	o	1.00	2.87	0.0	0.71	1-1.5	o	0.97
		3.25		1.05		u	0.84	e	0.90	3.70		1.20		u	0.89
		3.20								2.00

try it

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followed on Stade Nyonnais. not lookin' good. any over tips to cover?

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

00:30
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Stade Nyonnais
Biel Bienne
Draw

2.00

0-0.5

0.83

3.0

1.02

1.00

2.87

0.0

0.71

1-1.5

0.97

3.25

1.05

0.84

0.90

3.70

1.20

0.89

3.20

2.00

try it

dead. opening odds criteria not met. was a risk to bet on this.

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Looks good

Uruguay Primera Division
03:00 ! Live	Penarol Montevideo Cerro Montevideo Draw	1.0	0.70	3.0	o	0.97	o	0.94	0.50	0.94	1-1.5	o	0.98
			1.06		u	0.79	e	0.90		0.82		u	0.78

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Opening odds did not meet criteria No.4: "The Over odd water money must be higher than Under odd water money. Cannot both sides win same odd. *IMPORTANT*

Should we skip it, bro?

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

Opening odds did not meet criteria No.4: "The Over odd water money must be higher than Under odd water money. Cannot both sides win same odd. *IMPORTANT*

Should we skip it, bro?

if its the same, its best to skip unless u wanna risk.

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Thank you for the quick answer bro!

I took as reference the odds from SBOBET, and the closing odds met the 4th criteria that you stated, but the initial odds did not.
I can still bet live. What do you think?

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Found this game. Things look very nice.

Bragantino - Mirassol

SBOBET: Handicap Odds
Bragantino Handicap Mirassol Time
1.05 0.5 0.87 04-28 22:50
1.03 0.5 0.89 04-28 22:49
1.05 0.5 0.87 04-28 22:48
1.06 0.5 0.86 04-28 22:36
1.12 0.5 0.81 04-28 21:11
1.16 0.5 0.78 04-28 16:55
1.13 0.5 0.80 04-28 16:46
1.12 0.5 0.81 04-28 16:40
1.06 0.5 0.86 04-28 00:20
1.08 0.5 0.84 04-27 18:31
1.03 0.5 0.89 04-27 14:55
1.08 0.5 0.84 04-27 14:54
1.17 0.5 0.77 04-27 14:06
1.13 0.5 0.80 04-27 03:58

Over Odds O/U Under Odds Time
0.98 2.5/3 0.92 04-28 22:08
1.00 2.5/3 0.90 04-27 03:58

All the conditions are OK.

My only concern is that the 2.75 may not be the highest of the 3 Tier Handicap since it is a cup game. Bro Klavier, you rectified in another topic and stated that the 3 Tier for Brazilian Serie A is 2.25, 2.5, 2.75. Can this be applied for tonight's game also?

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@ BogdanT

Don't think all criteria fit. Handicap Odds of giving ball Team A bigger than the Under Goal Odds.

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My mistake. You are right!

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I'm looking at this match right now:
PER D1 00:45 FBC Melgar -vs- Jose Galvez FBC

Handicap
0.55 0.5/1 1.40 04-28 21:45
0.64 0.5/1 1.25 04-28 17:00
0.59 0.5/1 1.33 04-28 16:37
0.53 0.5/1 1.44 04-28 16:08
0.62 0.5/1 1.28 04-28 13:56
0.69 0.5/1 1.17 04-28 07:09
0.64 0.5/1 1.25 04-27 22:50 Initial

Over/Under
1.07 2.5 0.75 04-27 22:50 Initial

We should take a look again just before kick-off
All criteria fit so far, even the highest 3 Tier Handicap.
Should go over if the Odds don't make a big move in next hours.

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I'm with you on this one!

Let's wait until kick off!

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This one also could work:
MEX D1 02:00 Tigres UANL -vs- Puebla FC

Handicap
0.78 1 1.16 04-28 21:15
0.73 1 1.23 04-28 10:31
0.75 1 1.20 04-28 10:10
0.73 1 1.23 04-26 18:05
0.72 1 1.25 04-26 18:00
0.77 1 1.17 04-26 17:58
0.82 1 1.11 04-26 17:58
0.87 1 1.05 04-25 17:44
0.81 1 1.12 04-25 17:39
0.79 1 1.14 04-25 16:01
0.84 1 1.08 04-25 15:59
0.87 1 1.05 04-25 14:15

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0.96 2.5 0.94 04-28 22:30
0.98 2.5 0.92 04-28 18:08
1.00 2.5 0.90 04-28 12:38
1.02 2.5 0.88 04-27 17:05
0.99 2.5 0.91 04-27 13:32
1.05 2.5 0.85 04-25 16:28
1.00 2.5 0.90 04-25 16:25
1.06 2.5 0.84 04-25 15:56
1.01 2.5 0.89 04-25 15:41
1.07 2.5 0.83 04-25 15:39
1.14 2.5 0.77 04-25 15:38
1.17 2.5 0.75 04-25 14:15

Again let's wait...

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Penarol cleared.

Melgar game looks nice. Worth a shot.

Tigres heavy burden on the home team to score like Penarol.

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Brazil has many kinds of leagues.

one is the normal serie a and serie b kind of leagues. Serie A generally 3 Tier is 2.25, 2.5, 2.75. Serie B i guess should be the same.

Then there are state championship leagues like paulista, carioca, etc.

these leagues 3 tier i am not too sure.

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The Penarol game was amazing. Took live bet. Thank you for that. You are suggesting to skip the Tigres match?

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quote originally posted by BogdanT:

The Penarol game was amazing. Took live bet. Thank you for that. You are suggesting to skip the Tigres match?

I also think skip Tigres match. Reason: I made a mistake this time, too --> Starting Odds of Team A-handicap bigger than Odds of Under goals

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All focus on Melgar I think

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Yes. In the meantime I'm scouting for other matches.

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04/29 09:00	Atletico Nacional Medellin Atletico Huila Draw	1.77	0.50	0.78	2.50	o	0.99	o	0.96	2.38	0-0.5	0.98	1.0	o	1.11
		3.80		1.06		u	0.83	e	0.90	4.40		0.86		u	0.72
		3.45

monitor and nail later.

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@ BogdanT
Nice. Let me know, when u found something worth to try!

@ Klavier
Starting Odds of handicap giving team bigger than Under 2.5 Odds at start!
But now looking good. Thought starting Odds are more important?

@ Both
Melgar Over still looking good!

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PER D1 00:45 FBC Melgar -vs- Jose Galvez FBC

0.56 0.5/1 1.38 04-28 23:55
0.64 0.5/1 1.25 04-27 22:50 Initial

0.95 2.5 0.87 04-29 00:04
1.07 2.5 0.75 04-27 22:50 Initial

All criteria fit. Made big bet and waiting for full moon.

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PER D1 3' FBC Melgar 0-1 (-) José Gálvez FBC

What a start!!!

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1-1 HT

Looking very good! Did not manage to find any other relevant matches that start soon. Let's hope for the best with the Melgar game.

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No, didn't find any matches, too.

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cleared......
PER D1 85' FBC Melgar 2-1 (1-1) José Gálvez FBC

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quote originally posted by villapark36:

0.7	0.5	1.12	2012-04-29 08:56:03
0.73	0.5	1.09	2012-04-29 08:55:35
0.67	0.5	1.15	2012-04-29 08:55:19
0.61	0.5	1.21	2012-04-29 08:54:39
0.67	0.5	1.15	2012-04-29 08:51:59
0.61	0.5	1.21	2012-04-29 08:44:32
0.62	0.5	1.2	2012-04-29 08:31:43
0.64	0.5	1.18	2012-04-29 08:30:56
0.65	0.5	1.17	2012-04-29 08:29:15
0.6	0.5	1.22	2012-04-29 08:26:33
0.66	0.5	1.16	2012-04-29 08:19:44
0.68	0.5	1.14	2012-04-29 08:16:16
0.74	0.5	1.08	2012-04-29 07:55:16
0.68	0.5	1.14	2012-04-29 07:54:45
0.62	0.5	1.2	2012-04-29 07:50:53
0.68	0.5	1.14	2012-04-29 06:49:24
0.72	0.5	1.1	2012-04-29 06:12:38
0.84	0.5	0.98	2012-04-29 06:12:11
0.9	0.5	0.92	2012-04-29 06:10:28
0.84	0.5	0.98	2012-04-29 06:08:45
0.78	0.5	1.04	2012-04-29 06:05:09
0.84	0.5	0.98	2012-04-29 05:56:42
0.9	0.5	0.92	2012-04-29 05:53:37
0.86	0.5	0.96	2012-04-29 05:40:56
0.88	0.5	0.94	2012-04-29 05:40:09
0.79	0.5	1.03	2012-04-29 05:39:10
0.73	0.5	1.09	2012-04-29 05:01:25
0.79	0.5	1.03	2012-04-29 04:44:33
0.73	0.5	1.09	2012-04-29 04:10:32
0.67	0.5	1.15	2012-04-29 04:09:34
0.73	0.5	1.09	2012-04-29 01:14:15
0.74	0.5	1.08	2012-04-28 18:13:38
0.8	0.5	1.02	2012-04-28 14:32:20
0.75	0.5	1.07	2012-04-28 00:54:37
0.8	0.5	1.02	2012-04-27 23:55:02
0.85	0.5	0.97	2012-04-27 20:34:49(Initial)

0.98	2.5	0.82	08:52 29/04/2012
1.05	2.5	0.75	08:33 29/04/2012
1.07	2.5	0.73	08:33 29/04/2012
1	2.5	0.8	08:16 29/04/2012
1.07	2.5	0.73	07:55 29/04/2012
1	2.5	0.8	07:54 29/04/2012
0.93	2.5	0.87	07:38 29/04/2012
0.86	2.5	0.94	06:17 29/04/2012
0.93	2.5	0.87	04:31 29/04/2012
1	2.5	0.8	03:51 29/04/2012
0.93	2.5	0.87	03:50 29/04/2012
1	2.5	0.8	20:34 27/04/2012(Initial)

didnt realise it. should be a lucky win but seems like majority of the time the give ball water money is lower than the under ball water money with no handicap changes.

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