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ahchang
07-Mar 2012 Wednesday 4:50 PM (4434 days ago)               #1
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It may be discussed before:

So i have this thinking, not sure whether it will work?

Bringing S$ 2000 just to win S$ 200, can it be done? Everyday? Win close shop. Stop loss at S$ 2000 strictly.

Say on bacarret, as this has the lowest house edge. And play on confident/sure bet.
Each bet S$ 100 to S$200.

I think it may not work long run but still have strong temptation to try it out.

i know that if it is that easy, then nobody will be working.

I just want to know if anybody have try it? Any success?

Or most will fail because of greed? Impulsive bets? or the house edge kills you?








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07-Mar 2012 Wednesday 5:03 PM (4434 days ago)            #2
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quote originally posted by ahchang:

It may be discussed before:

So i have this thinking, not sure whether it will work?

Bringing S$ 2000 just to win S$ 200, can it be done? Everyday? Win close shop. Stop loss at S$ 2000 strictly.

Say on bacarret, as this has the lowest house edge. And play on confident/sure bet.
Each bet S$ 100 to S$200.

I think it may not work long run but still have strong temptation to try it out.

i know that if it is that easy, then nobody will be working.

I just want to know if anybody have try it? Any success?

Or most will fail because of greed? Impulsive bets? or the house edge kills you?




will u really leave if you win 200?




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07-Mar 2012 Wednesday 11:33 PM (4434 days ago)            #3
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got ppl try befor but not this way

he bring 20k just to win $500

you kown what he do double up until he won 

then walk off with $500 

your case i think 100 go better 

or you get burn

meets a lot of will power and first hand is important.

first hand win go if   first hand  lose ?

stay or go?if you stay second hand win back stay or go?

stay.you got what i mean now. contiune on and on 

you would lose.so if first hand win go.lose also go

second day then come back.you would be asking second bet how much of course 300 

win go lose also go.third day start with 200 first hand again .contiue it you had higher chances of getting your goal

hope i answer you question.and give you some advisesmiley



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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 12:13 AM (4434 days ago)            #4
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1 time 2 times u might be win, long terms sure loses. What if u lose 5 in a row? u will be panic and dunno how to bets sia. Just like soccer betting, u betting favorite, won 10 times cannot tahan lose 1 time. This strategy a lot of ppls used it before, not working and risky oso. Use $2000 just to make 200, u might be crazy sia. No gamblers will go casino just to win 200 and leaves.

gambling is mind sets challenges, always be calms and fresh. Slow and steady win the race, dun bets on every round. Bets only u are confident and within your limits.

Only u have excess money then u go, no borrow to gambles. Win, u can continues to play and stops if u lose 5 in row. Play smart.

I been casino 7 times, won 7 times . Won nearly 20K, but i still restrict myself to go once a month. I dun want to get myself be addicted.



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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 1:08 PM (4433 days ago)            #5
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quote originally posted by Infantry:

will u really leave if you win 200?


yes, if i am going there to play with strategy. Because i am coming again the next day.
quote originally posted by ah kau:

it will work definately if u revise my bet every time.


you mean reverse your bet, lol
Seelangui --> Thanks.
Seven swords --> if i am not greedy, strictly win and go because i will be coming everyday.
its the losses that we need to handle. Stop at S$ 2000. u mean we can lose 5 confident bet? (bacarret)I know that if i can make 5 straight wins, i can also have 5 straight loses.
its like using S$ 20 to win S$ 2 or may be S$ 1. Its easy if you think this way. Just that i need to know if people have done it and why have they succeed or not succeed?
ps: I am not encouraging people to bet. i know long term casino will win because of the house edge. LVS is already making about S$ 300 million each quarter from their operations in Singapore. (i followed LVS because i held their stocks before)



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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 1:53 PM (4433 days ago)            #6
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quote originally posted by ahchang:

It may be discussed before:

So i have this thinking, not sure whether it will work?

Bringing S$ 2000 just to win S$ 200, can it be done? Everyday? Win close shop. Stop loss at S$ 2000 strictly.

Say on bacarret, as this has the lowest house edge. And play on confident/sure bet.
Each bet S$ 100 to S$200.

I think it may not work long run but still have strong temptation to try it out.

i know that if it is that easy, then nobody will be working.

I just want to know if anybody have try it? Any success?

Or most will fail because of greed? Impulsive bets? or the house edge kills you?




If ya pretty sure you got the discipline and that losing the 2k is no biggies, then do it the straight forward way:

1) split the 2k into 4 units of $500 each.

2) bet 1 unit each time.

3) every loss, go for another unit. If hit LLLL, go home...forget casino for some time.

4) every win, go for a parlay bet. Meaning bet 1 unit, won 1 unit - next bet: 2 units (ie. your original bet amt + the winning bet amt).

5) should you hit WW on any of the 4 units, go home. While the last winning unit is on breakeven, you get a tidy profit on the first 3 units:
Bet A. +$1,500
Bet B. +$1,000
Bet C. +$500

6) Bet Selection? Any thing for a random game like Bac. My suggestion would be P, which unlike B has got no 5% commish or worse...B6 half payment. Don't be mistaken though I said to bet P...am not conforming you to betting PP to come on a single table or game but really - it is entirely up to your choice.


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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 2:09 PM (4433 days ago)            #7
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quote originally posted by ah kau:

9 times good luck, 1 times bad luck enough to take back all your winning plus your own money. When u having good luck must chase big bet to max the good luck time, good luck time not last for long but in certain timing.1 good luck time can give u 10k,even 20k at a time if u dont scare to raise your stake.Then the winning can at least last for few times if u having bad luck streak.But if u having good luck u go off, then bad luck lose 2k,this is not smart.I dont believe everyday good luck, let say 3days good luck 7 days bad luck, at least got 3 days to go for big win.




If this's the case, on your next casino vist, do parlay betting or triple parlay kinda. It runs on positive progression & capped your losses better than negative types like a martingale for example.

Still it is no holy grail cos casino games are all mathematically calculated against the players' favour. However the short term is what all are gunning for Smile



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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 4:27 PM (4433 days ago)            #8
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brothers beleive me or not.  I have been to the casino for 29days for the whole month of feb. 

I have joint the yearly membership so entrance fee to me is nil.

My main purpose is to go to the casino for daily free food during lunch time because I work around Marina sand area and our office gives us 1.5hours for lunch break because we finishes our working hour late in the evening at about 6.45pm.

I have stay on a principle of 2 bets a day win or loose every bet is $100 if win double up.

guess what i have managed to win $1,800 for the month of feb.

As now is march 8th I have already managed to win $600.

Try the one or two bet max method

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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 4:43 PM (4433 days ago)            #9
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quote originally posted by ah kau:




why got free food?use point to redeem?


I am a gold card holder, go to the second floor for free food.  In past use to play alot and lucky me so far break even la.

Hopefully, use this new method make some small profit.

 



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08-Mar 2012 Thursday 5:02 PM (4433 days ago)            #10
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quote originally posted by ah kau:




May i know how to be a gold card member, is it must accumulate certain RWS point or they observe u bet big always then recommend to u? or else u already Genting gold card so they give u straight away?


No la , I am a genting silver card holder from KL genting and a gold holder from RWS.

I now protonize MBS I use my RWS gold card show it to them and holding a MBS gold card.

If you want MBS gold card I think you need to accumulate 388points within 6 months.

I prefer MBS spacious bright and free flow of drinks are good and the food for gold members and above are good quality too.

 



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quote originally posted by BABIE:

No la , I am a genting silver card holder from KL genting and a gold holder from RWS.

 

I now protonize MBS I use my RWS gold card show it to them and holding a MBS gold card.

If you want MBS gold card I think you need to accumulate 388points within 6 months.

I prefer MBS spacious bright and free flow of drinks are good and the food for gold members and above are good quality too.

 



MBS have given me the gold card because if you are a silver and above from RWS.

 



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09-Mar 2012 Friday 11:18 AM (4432 days ago)            #12
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quote originally posted by tsbd:

If ya pretty sure you got the discipline and that losing the 2k is no biggies, then do it the straight forward way:
1) split the 2k into 4 units of $500 each.
2) bet 1 unit each time.
3) every loss, go for another unit. If hit LLLL, go home...forget casino for some time.
4) every win, go for a parlay bet. Meaning bet 1 unit, won 1 unit - next bet: 2 units (ie. your original bet amt + the winning bet amt).
5) should you hit WW on any of the 4 units, go home. While the last winning unit is on breakeven, you get a tidy profit on the first 3 units:
Bet A. +$1,500
Bet B. +$1,000
Bet C. +$500
6) Bet Selection? Any thing for a random game like Bac. My suggestion would be P, which unlike B has got no 5% commish or worse...B6 half payment. Don't be mistaken though I said to bet P...am not conforming you to betting PP to come on a single table or game but really - it is entirely up to your choice.
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Are you doing it or u know anybody who is still doing it?
But if you get
L W L W L W L
You will have lost the 2K based on assumptions of 4 units of S$ 500.



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09-Mar 2012 Friday 11:30 AM (4432 days ago)            #13
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quote originally posted by BABIE:

brothers beleive me or not.  I have been to the casino for 29days for the whole month of feb. 



I have joint the yearly membership so entrance fee to me is nil.



My main purpose is to go to the casino for daily free food during lunch time because I work around Marina sand area and our office gives us 1.5hours for lunch break because we finishes our working hour late in the evening at about 6.45pm.



I have stay on a principle of 2 bets a day win or loose every bet is $100 if win double up.



guess what i have managed to win $1,800 for the month of feb.



As now is march 8th I have already managed to win $600.



Try the one or two bet max method



good luck and cheers




Yes Yearly membership can be ignored. If use credit card to pay then convert to instalment (pay lite in the case of citi bank). Then probably 2000 + say 7% interest per annual = S$ 178 per month.

So out of 29 Days:

How many days are winnings?

How many days are losses?

How many days are breakeven?

GOod job. Hope you can maintain.










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09-Mar 2012 Friday 1:59 PM (4432 days ago)            #14
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quote originally posted by ahchang:

Are you doing it or u know anybody who is still doing it?
But if you get
L W L W L W L
You will have lost the 2K based on assumptions of 4 units of S$ 500.



It seriously does not matter if someone has success or not with any particular systems or bet selection out there. Why? Because baccarat is simply a random game and so much so that while one can have success with this system A, the other may have failed and vice versa. Or if system B can work now, it may not in another shoe, vice versa.

What you observed is correct. On any LWLWLWL scenario it would have busted the progression. But like said, this is much more 'straight forward' way to play...for Winning or for Realisation (that this is truly a random game) when u have lost. What I have suggested is merely a way to capture bigger profits when your winning in the hope that when u lose, those profits can more than offset the losses. However if luck is not on your side, forget casino and take the 2k loss as an experience. U have to be able to take that amount as risk capital, no disruption to your livehood after losing it.

Anyhow it won't do u any harm (nor good) to place a single bet on every different table. It won't kill if u just lost 2 bets in-a-row and that your walking around for another hour before hitting the tables again. It also won't hurt if you decided to, after losing 1k, split your remaining amount into: 300-300-400 parlay bets Or 100-300-600 martingale Or take the losses in your stride & go back home, feeling that you just 'Saved' $1,000
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09-Mar 2012 Friday 10:47 PM (4432 days ago)            #15
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quote originally posted by ah kau:

How about if get LLLLLLLLLLL ? my record was 11 times straight lost in baccarat.



The stop-loss = $2,000 nia, risk capital meaning $ that u can truly afford to lose without causing u any form of stress right after that. 4L = -$2,000 = go home. So I see the above 11L, I would be super 心服口服and also happy that I did not set higher stop-loss to accumulate another -$3,500.



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quote originally posted by 谢明明:



sure and confident bet? whats that? you can never be sure untill the result is out



you are right that i will not work out



kill that temptation, it will bring you nowhere



those who have tried it failed big time definately



all three that you mentioned, kills you

 




Your right absolutely in that until 'the result is out', there is no 'Sure Win Bet'. The trigger which anyone may have, can work out the first 10 bets in the game of baccarat & that is a definite booster to his confidence. But take note it can also lose on the next 15 times before winning again 5 times on the bounce...always revolves back to the 50-50.


Focus on bets' amount placed on the felt. It is more important than bet selection. Should I have 2k as risk capital, I would have gone down to base bet $20 per unit & grind my way to profit rather than squandered it on flat-betting with 10 or 20 units on hand.


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14-Mar 2012 Wednesday 9:27 PM (4427 days ago)            #17
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quote originally posted by ahchang:

It may be discussed before:

So i have this thinking, not sure whether it will work?

Bringing S$ 2000 just to win S$ 200, can it be done? Everyday? Win close shop. Stop loss at S$ 2000 strictly.

Say on bacarret, as this has the lowest house edge. And play on confident/sure bet.
Each bet S$ 100 to S$200.

I think it may not work long run but still have strong temptation to try it out.

i know that if it is that easy, then nobody will be working.

I just want to know if anybody have try it? Any success?

Or most will fail because of greed? Impulsive bets? or the house edge kills you?




Bro, i can tell you straight this method doesn't work UNLESS you are super super determine to go home once you win 200buck..

YES, right here you can easily say "of course will go off once i hit my target" BUT in live casino will you really do it??

Let quote an example, you spend $100 go in less than 5min and won $200, will you really that happy to go home like that?? In all normal human being mindset, we will all think that way "wow my luck is coming, or it my lucky day!!" YOU definitely will stay on and continue playing..eventually you will lose your $$$..

THEN

next day how??? will you really happy to just win $200 on the 2nd day?? NO.. definitely you will want to fight back the loss on the 1st day..because we are ALL HUMAN BEING...and this will go on & on..

CONCLUSION
This daily win $200 method DOESN'T WORKING

PS: I tried this method before and failed.. Confused




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Bro, i can tell you straight this method doesn't work UNLESS you are super super determine to go home once you win 200buck..

YES, right here you can easily say "of course will go off once i hit my target" BUT in live casino will you really do it??

Let quote an example, you spend $100 go in less than 5min and won $200, will you really that happy to go home like that?? In all normal human being mindset, we will all think that way "wow my luck is coming, or it my lucky day!!" YOU definitely will stay on and continue playing..eventually you will lose your $$$..

THEN

next day how??? will you really happy to just win $200 on the 2nd day?? NO.. definitely you will want to fight back the loss on the 1st day..because we are ALL HUMAN BEING...and this will go on & on..

CONCLUSION
This daily win $200 method DOESN'T WORKING

PS: I tried this method before and failed..


yes it true

but i me tell you some tricks

win go   lose also go trick
win 500 first dont care how or what you want to do it.up to you ok

later go there play card game or big small .not jackpot or other result random games

first hand 200 lose go win also go.

go mean for a drink and wait for a hour or so

place another bet.lose go win also go

repeat it for 8 hours.at the end of the day you win go lose also go.

slow down your bets dont rush.you want be contral and be a winner.

nobody say you must stick to the table and play until pant drop or pocket full 

just slowly see and think what game is the best at the point of one hour.

enjoy the time you are in there and dont rush.you would win.

why you ask win $500 first because thats your limit for you lose

if you had lose 1k go back and dont go to this casino again 

go to the other one.just trick by punk hope its help



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quote originally posted by seelangui:



yes it true



but i me tell you some tricks



win go   lose also go trick
win 500 first dont care how or what you want to do it.up to you ok



later go there play card game or big small .not jackpot or other result random games



first hand 200 lose go win also go.



go mean for a drink and wait for a hour or so



place another bet.lose go win also go



repeat it for 8 hours.at the end of the day you win go lose also go.



slow down your bets dont rush.you want be contral and be a winner.



nobody say you must stick to the table and play until pant drop or pocket full 



just slowly see and think what game is the best at the point of one hour.



enjoy the time you are in there and dont rush.you would win.



why you ask win $500 first because thats your limit for you lose



if you had lose 1k go back and dont go to this casino again 



go to the other one.just trick by punk hope its help




bro,ya win liao go play other game or rest awhile then play again but it still the same..you still will continue playing..that the point!

you hardly can control urself to stop playing..no matter you win or lose..let say u heng heng win 1k today and really really tell urself to go home..then next day u lose 1k back,will u really stop and go??? or will continue stay and fight..it all human natural..we will definitely stay and fight..of coz u can choose stop and go..but ur mind will still thinking on the loss,eventually you will try to fight back on another day..and true enough..this winning 200buck or 500buck daily method is not in use anymore..
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quote originally posted by ah kau:

I every time go casino either win or lose only, no break even.If i lose at beginning then cover back to even, i wont go ,anyhow must win more than the capital or lose all my money only.After lose until wallet empty, i will quickly go atm withdraw money go in again,no matter how many card i have also must withdraw all if lose,if atm card left at home, then take cab go back and take it ,ask the cabby wait for me after take it then return casino faster.After atm hit withdrawal daily limit or ac no more money, see wallet if got credit card still have limit, take out cash advance, all take out, i dont want to lose less, must fight back all looses plus winning a bit at least or lose until really no money, then stop, go back.After that thinking how to get capital again to go in fight back.




This is what we call ~ Human Natural

We hardly can control our mind especially when we are at the losing steak, it like u totally change into another person..Unstoppable! Gasp




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quote originally posted by ah kau:

I every time go casino either win or lose only, no break even.If i lose at beginning then cover back to even, i wont go ,anyhow must win more than the capital or lose all my money only.After lose until wallet empty, i will quickly go atm withdraw money go in again,no matter how many card i have also must withdraw all if lose,if atm card left at home, then take cab go back and take it ,ask the cabby wait for me after take it then return casino faster.After atm hit withdrawal daily limit or ac no more money, see wallet if got credit card still have limit, take out cash advance, all take out, i dont want to lose less, must fight back all looses plus winning a bit at least or lose until really no money, then stop, go back.After that thinking how to get capital again to go in fight back.




One of the most important traits commonly found in all successful entrepreneurs is: 'Fight Back' all failures with relentless persistency till you achieve your goals. Such kinda mindset is certainly good for doing businesses or achieving your academic qualification, etc. Unfortunately for the general players out there, you should never adopt this mentality while engaging in any forms of gambling activities. There should be no affiliation between the two or otherwise the end result may prove disastrous.


For players that are too deep into it, only Self-Realisation with counselling can help eliminate the roots given some period of time.



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i am talking about with control and discipline. I will be still working, having a stable income.

This small winnings will be supplement towards expenses or set aside.
Forget the S$ 100 levy as a S$ 2000 annual levy can be convert to a instalment or similar as instalment using credit card. Hence per month is about S$ 176.

Not trying to be rich but to sustain a longer run of profits per month.

I am not talking about using S$ 3000 to win S$ 30000 per day or at any one time. More like a sustainable long term income. Win sure go because i am coming back the next day.

Still all opinions are welcome.



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quote originally posted by AB^Expert:

Bro, i can tell you straight this method doesn't work UNLESS you are super super determine to go home once you win 200buck..

YES, right here you can easily say "of course will go off once i hit my target" BUT in live casino will you really do it??

Let quote an example, you spend $100 go in less than 5min and won $200, will you really that happy to go home like that?? In all normal human being mindset, we will all think that way "wow my luck is coming, or it my lucky day!!" YOU definitely will stay on and continue playing..eventually you will lose your $$$..

THEN

next day how??? will you really happy to just win $200 on the 2nd day?? NO.. definitely you will want to fight back the loss on the 1st day..because we are ALL HUMAN BEING...and this will go on & on..

CONCLUSION
This daily win $200 method DOESN'T WORKING

PS: I tried this method before and failed..




Why did you fail? Please share. Thanks.



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quote originally posted by ahchang:

Forget the S$ 100 levy as a S$ 2000 annual levy can be convert to a instalment or similar as instalment using credit card. Hence per month is about S$ 176.



Bro, shed more light on this pls?


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quote originally posted by ahchang:

Why did you fail? Please share. Thanks.




As i mentioned earlier on, it hard to have self discipline and control..human being are greedy, we wont satisfy easily especially on $$$..if you win $100,u will try to win $200 and if u win $200 u will try to win $300,this go on & on..you ask yourself, let say you go to casino and within 5min you win $200..will you straight away go home since you have achieve your target?? 99% of us wont do that cos we got the mindset that we just reach only,the night is still young + most of us will think it our LUCKY DAY..therefore we will stay on and continue to play..by doing so,we already break the rule of this win $200 everyday method..

Somemore if you lose on that day,the next day you will try to recover on your loss..instead of win $200 and go,u will end up playing more and sink deeper into the hole.. Confused

I failed is because im one of the 99% of the above group..UNLESS..You are that 1% who have very very very strong determine mindset and self control.. Cool Indifference

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quote originally posted by tsbd:

Bro, shed more light on this pls?




I mean to pay the S$ 2000 annual levy fee by Credit Card.

Then use pay lite (Citibank) to convert into 12 months instalment plan with small interest per annual.

And hence you break into twelve payments if you look at it this way.

Ps: not encouraging people to gamble.



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quote originally posted by ahchang:

I mean to pay the S$ 2000 annual levy fee by Credit Card.

Then use pay lite (Citibank) to convert into 12 months instalment plan with small interest per annual.

And hence you break into twelve payments if you look at it this way.

Ps: not encouraging people to gamble.



Thanks bro. The one I'd read refers to ready credit which is what I'm holding onto for couple of years but used less than 3 times (quite dumb I know to pay annual fee for nothing). From what u've mentioned probably their credit card can achieve the 5.5% pa as well...

Ps: Matured as well as Disciplined individual your talking to here

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quote originally posted by tsbd:

Thanks bro. The one I'd read refers to ready credit which is what I'm holding onto for couple of years but used less than 3 times (quite dumb I know to pay annual fee for nothing). From what u've mentioned probably their credit card can achieve the 5.5% pa as well...

Ps: Matured as well as Disciplined individual your talking to here

Cheers!





you can call them and request for waive off. Usually they will oblige. If they dont, just cancel the ready credit. Even when i have utilise the ready credits, i will still call the bank for waiver when it comes to annual fee. Applys to other credit card and overdraft accounts.



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quote originally posted by ah kau:

high possibility will work ,almost everytime i go casino, there is either at beginning or midway i will win small amount, if u manage to control urself by leaving casino when u win a bit, u can make it but inside casino got "ghost" to pull ur legs, most of us will not leave bcoz think that will win more than the target since in winning form, then lady luck come, why quit if got luck?



the ghost is your greed. If you have a stable job/income, your mind will be more at peace and clear as you are not dependent on the winnings. (my 2 cent view)

By the way, have you clear your credit card and bank loans? (you keep saying you hope to go back to Casino)




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quote originally posted by ahchang:

you can call them and request for waive off. Usually they will oblige. If they dont, just cancel the ready credit. Even when i have utilise the ready credits, i will still call the bank for waiver when it comes to annual fee. Applys to other credit card and overdraft accounts.



quote originally posted by ah kau:

sure they will waive, if they say no , then tell them u r going to run road and wont pay a single cent to them, sure they scared.



LOL...alright bros! Many thanks for the tips!
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quote originally posted by ahchang:

It may be discussed before:

So i have this thinking, not sure whether it will work?

Bringing S$ 2000 just to win S$ 200, can it be done? Everyday? Win close shop. Stop loss at S$ 2000 strictly.

Say on bacarret, as this has the lowest house edge. And play on confident/sure bet.
Each bet S$ 100 to S$200.

I think it may not work long run but still have strong temptation to try it out.

i know that if it is that easy, then nobody will be working.

I just want to know if anybody have try it? Any success?

Or most will fail because of greed? Impulsive bets? or the house edge kills you?






most will fail because of greed...you might be able to do it for 10days...20days...30days...
then awareness will be low...you will then opt for more...i won 2k also didnt want to go...all because of greed...





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just a little advise when you go to casino... DON"T be such a greedy... you will definitely lose soon... Frown



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U can consider using $2000 levy as your capital.

I would suggest to purchase the daily levy, since you have time, you should be able to visit 2 times within 24hrs.
If you lose $2000, take it as lesson learnt.
If you win $2000, use the winning to purchase annual levy.

I have been to casino a few times, and have managed to stop playing after I won a few hundreds.
So far, I played not more than 10 hands in each visit.
Sometime I stay abit longer for coffee or chitchat with frens or customers.

It’s very tough to leave casino after winning a few hundreds. But it’s “do-able”.
Discipline and money management is very important.

set a lose limit, and also a win target...
you can't win 100% or the whole casino...
you can walk away after winning a few hundreds or your target.

Peace n goodluck all
Huat ah!!


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tried before...but failed....you can win 3-4 times $200 each round, but it takes 1 time to lose $2000......



quote originally posted by ahchang:

It may be discussed before:

So i have this thinking, not sure whether it will work?

Bringing S$ 2000 just to win S$ 200, can it be done? Everyday? Win close shop. Stop loss at S$ 2000 strictly.

Say on bacarret, as this has the lowest house edge. And play on confident/sure bet.
Each bet S$ 100 to S$200.

I think it may not work long run but still have strong temptation to try it out.

i know that if it is that easy, then nobody will be working.

I just want to know if anybody have try it? Any success?

Or most will fail because of greed? Impulsive bets? or the house edge kills you?






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quote originally posted by Defy78:

tried before...but failed....you can win 3-4 times $200 each round, but it takes 1 time to lose $2000......




INDEED VERY TRUE Indifferent




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Think about it.

If you win $200 per day = 10 days you win $2k

If you bet $200 per bet and you win 10 times = you win 2k




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If this work I will tender le everyday win $200 more than my pay sia u can win few day in a row but not forever Take u 10 day to win 2k if u win $200 a day it take u 1day to lose 2k Frown




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quote originally posted by XXadidasXX:

If this work I will tender le everyday win $200 more than my pay sia u can win few day in a row but not forever Take u 10 day to win 2k if u win $200 a day it take u 1day to lose 2k




unless you are very disciplined and manage your money management well if not its hard.

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quote originally posted by XXadidasXX:

If this work I will tender le everyday win $200 more than my pay sia u can win few day in a row but not forever Take u 10 day to win 2k if u win $200 a day it take u 1day to lose 2k




unless you are very disciplined and manage your money management well if not its hard.

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or may be engage a friend who is neutral to pull you out when you lost a fixed target....assuming you target to win 200 per day...then you must set lose target too...once lose target is met, your friend must pull you out..then try the next day...once win target is met, though you are feeling the luck factor, your friend must pull you out...


but how many can manage this?
say is easier than done...

if human is so discipline, casino will close down since decades ago... Wink




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quote originally posted by peacenjoy:

or may be engage a friend who is neutral to pull you out when you lost a fixed target....assuming you target to win 200 per day...then you must set lose target too...once lose target is met, your friend must pull you out..then try the next day...once win target is met, though you are feeling the luck factor, your friend must pull you out...


but how many can manage this?
say is easier than done...

if human is so discipline, casino will close down since decades ago...




My compulsive gambler kaki suggested that. We tried, with me as that 'neutral man'... well, my experience is: quite daunting to wake him from his trance. Ppl around are thinking we are quarrelling over money matters concerning gambling but which in fact it isn't the case. Pretty embarrassing I would say, LOL!


The next day, he told me he should have heeded my advice, but not after he admitted another loss of 3k cos he went back later in the night to 'hope to recoup + win'!!!...

Enough said Indifferent



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quote originally posted by ah kau:

 

Have u started your plan? talk talk only wont make anything, must action and try it. I really admire u can go casino, i want to go and try also cannt, only can go the cheating leasure world cruise.


Bringing in S$2,000 jut to win S$200 ? You're kidding me right?

 You must at least make 50% of what you have brought in (capital) and here are my personal tips

 

Always remember, you have only 5-10 mins of 'good luck' in every hour.

Bet with a profit target rather than the time concerned. Example, you paid S$100 but could leave 10 mins later cause you have already achieved your target.

Don't ever trust on the so called 'graph' or bacarrat specially on a game where the whole world is betting on one side.

Can't review much but the best method for punting on baccarat is still on çard counting which \i'm doing always.............success rate 70|% good luck mate

 

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quote originally posted by SKYBULLET007:


 ...You must at least make 50% of what you have brought in (capital)...



...Bet with a profit target rather than the time concerned...


...Don't ever trust on the so called 'graph' or bacarrat specially on a game where the whole world is betting on one side....



....Can't review much but the best method for punting on baccarat is still on çard counting which \i'm doing always.............success rate 70|%...
 


This message was edited by SKYBULLET007 on 27-Mar-2012 @ 1:12 AM



Nice to hear & v much in agreement w those!
Regards to the third advice however, I personally would only be concerned if there should be a dragon streak forming since in my more than 'once bitten twice shy' of experiences, I would rather adhere to "Streaks are to be respected" notion than break my bank in one bad scoop. Unless I utilise a deep progression with strong backups of bankrolls, I would break it at 5th streaks.



Oh by far I have only heard one claim which mentioned bout a winning bac system with "card counting" methodology. I know it's your precious heirloom but is it convenient to reveal how long have u been winning, how many shoes played and how many hands you bet per shoe to achieve your high 70% success rate? I am pretty interested in your bankroll as well as highest drawdowns together w the highest/lowest bet placed
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quote originally posted by tsbd:

Nice to hear & v much in agreement w those!
Regards to the third advice however, I personally would only be concerned if there should be a dragon streak forming since in my more than 'once bitten twice shy' of experiences, I would rather adhere to "Streaks are to be respected" notion than break my bank in one bad scoop. Unless I utilise a deep progression with strong backups of bankrolls, I would break it at 5th streaks.



Oh by far I have only heard one claim which mentioned bout a winning bac system with "card counting" methodology. I know it's your precious heirloom but is it convenient to reveal how long have u been winning, how many shoes played and how many hands you bet per shoe to achieve your high 70% success rate? I am pretty interested in your bankroll as well as highest drawdowns together w the highest/lowest bet placed
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Nice to hear & v much in agreement w those!
Regards to the third advice however, I personally would only be concerned if there should be a dragon streak forming since in my more than 'once bitten twice shy' of experiences, I would rather adhere to "Streaks are to be respected" notion than break my bank in one bad scoop. Unless I utilise a deep progression with strong backups of bankrolls, I would break it at 5th streaks.



Oh by far I have only heard one claim which mentioned bout a winning bac system with "card counting" methodology. I know it's your precious heirloom but is it convenient to reveal how long have u been winning, how many shoes played and how many hands you bet per shoe to achieve your high 70% success rate? I am pretty interested in your bankroll as well as highest drawdowns together w the highest/lowest bet placed
Cheers!



look mate, not all deck of cards work the way I expect. My only cue to you is that, if I know the next new game will give the player a card that is not a picture or a 10, I would punt on player specially when I knew (70%) above that the next dealed card for the player is probably an 8 or 9. I would punt on player cum buy S$50 on natural 8 and 9 (10% of my bet)

Bottom line is.........if you know the card system for Black Jack, then you should know roughly how to count or expect the next dealed card, cheers.

Remember, there is still a 30% chance that the cards wouldn't add up to the B.J. system. Good Luck
 



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KJG,

Many thanks for the effort in posting the video! Incorrect dealing of cards but doesn't matter since my belief is that bet selection in Baccarat always resolves back to the 50-50 state, & they always do Smile



Skybullet,

Thanks for your response & hint too! Well BJ card counters do have some kinda 'positive expectation' over the game. Besides the strong discipline & sheer composure, I believed they proccess powerful memories as well as absolute concentration during every the game played.


Well coming over to the game of bac, my opinion is that card counting isn't viable due to the 8 decks of cards used, unrevealed burnt card as well as the drawing rules (which 'strangely' goes against the law of probability)...just my personal view. But know what, SkyBullet? It is what works for your that truly matters, those $$$ coming into your bank!!!


By the way utilising your strategy, do you still use progression or simply flat-betting? I do strongly believe you would have a way with your money management in order for your consistent winnings!


Wish you continued success Smile



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