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villapark36
22-May 2012 Tuesday 1:08 AM (4359 days ago)               #1
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I was impressed by the strategies bro Klavier brought to us.
Now I wanna let u guys know, what strategies I use to make some money!

I'm winning with give ball strategy the following way:


1. Lowest of the 3 Tier given, Home Team gives ball! (My favourite strategy, best results)
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Example1: MyPa vs VPS Vaasa
Looking at plate: MyPa -0.25 Over 2.25
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Finland Veikkausliga: 2.25, 2.5, 2.75 --> Smallest 3 Tier given
Pick: MyPa -0.25 Won (FT 1-0)
(Bookies don't expect many goals, will be a thin win, home team got best chances to win by one goal maybe)

Example2: UMF Grindavik vs Stjarnan
Looking at plate: Stjarnan -0.5 Over 2.75
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Iceland Premier Division: 2.75, 3, 3.25 --> Smallest 3 Tier given
Pick: Stjarnan -0.5 Won (FT 1-4)


2. Over is +0.25 higher than the highest 3 Tier Handicap, Favourites giving big ball!
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Example (Normal 3 Tier Handicap 2, 2.25, 2.5, now Over 2.75 Goals offered [+0.25 higher than highest 3 Tier)
Example: LoPa Lohja vs ÅIFK Turku
Looking at plate: ÅIFK Turku -2 Over 3.75
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Finland Kakkonen: 3, 3.25, 3.5 --> Biggest 3 Tier +0.25 offered (3.75)
Pick: ÅIFK Turku -2 Won (FT 0-3)


These two strategies shown above work out fine for me (85+% hitrate so far). You should wait till kick-off, because the handicaps and goallines often change till kick-off. If there are changes, skip match as always. Don't bet on every match fitting the criteria! Also look at league table, team form etc. There are enough matches fitting the criteria every day. So pick the ones that look best to you.

I advice you to use this strategies for home teams only. You can use them for away teams giving ball, too but I had better results with home teams.

In this tread I will post picks using the strategies and you can feel free to post questions or matches YOU are monitoring.

Give it a try, but don't blame me, if it doesn't work for you. Like I said, for me it works out fine.
Best of Luck bros and happy winning!



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Here I will post matches I'm monitoring, doesn't mean I'm betting on them or you to bet. Just take them as reference. You have to visit this thread to look for updates.



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quote originally posted by villapark36:


Pick: MyPa -0.25 (Bookies don't expect many goals, will be a thin win, home team got best chances to win by one goal maybe)





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quote originally posted by villapark36:

I was impressed by the strategies bro Klavier brought to us.
Now I wanna let u guys know, what strategies I use to make some money!

I'm winning with give ball strategy the following way:

1. Lowest of the 3 Tier given, Home Team gives ball!

Example today: MyPa vs VPS Vaasa
Looking at plate: MyPa -0.25 Over 2.25
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Finland Veikkausliga: 2.25, 2.5, 2.75
Pick: MyPa -0.25 (Bookies don't expect many goals, will be a thin win, home team got best chances to win by one goal maybe)

2. Over higher than the highest 3 Tier Handicap, Favourites giving big ball!

Example today: Saint Patricks Athletic FC vs Dundalk FC
Looking at plate: Saint Patricks Athletic FC -1.5 Over 2.75
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Ireland Premier League 2, 2.25, 2.5
Pick: Saint Patricks Athletic FC -1.5 (Home Team is the bookies big favorite and giving a huge ball. But bookies also expect many goals [more goals than normal for this league!] so it could be possible that the bookies favourites clear the handicap by 2 or 3 goal advantage!

3. Bigest 3 Tier or middle 3 Tier given, Home gives 3/4 ball!
If the biggest 3 Tier given, you normally eat ball. But in this case I never do. It seems to be a bookie trap. They want you to take eat ball, because for us punters eating a 3/4 ball seems huge. Sorry, I got no good examples for today.

Example1 yesterday: Junior Barranquilla vs Independiente Medellin
Looking at plate: Junior Barranquilla -0.75 Over 2.5
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Colombiano-Apertura: 2, 2.25, 2.5
Pick: Junior Barranquilla -0.75 (FT 1-0) Win

Example2 yesterday: FH Hafnarfjordur vs Breidablik UBK
Looking at plate: FH Hafnarfjordur -0.75 Over 3
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Iceland Premier Division: 2.75, 3, 3.25
Pick: FH Hafnarfjordur -0.75 (FT 3-0) Win

Example3 yesterday: SC Internacional RS vs Coritiba PR
Looking at plate: SC Internacional RS -0.75 Over 2.5
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Brazil Serie A: 2.25, 2.5, 2.75
Pick: SC Internacional RS -0.75 (FT 2-0) Win

I also found out these four things, if home team gives -0.75 ball:

1. Mostly the home team takes the lead very fast (first half)
--> First team to score: Home --> HT/FT: Home/Home
2. Mostly only the handicap giving team scores
--> Both teams to score (goal/goal) --> No
3. Mostly the goalline is Under (Look at examples above)
4. Mostly the home team can clear handicap full
--> Home Team wins by 2 or three goals


These three strategies shown above work out fine for me (85+% hitrate so far). You should wait till kick-off, because the handicaps and goallines often change till kick-off. If there are changes, skip match as always. Don't bet on every match fitting the criteria! Also look at league table, team form etc. There are enough matches fitting the criteria every day. So pick the ones that look best to you.

I advice you to use this strategies for home teams. You can use them for away teams giving ball, too but I had better results with home teams.

In this tread I will post picks using the strategies and you can feel free to post questions or matches YOU are monitoring.

Give it a try, but don't blame me, if it doesn't work for you. Like I said, for me it works out fine.
Best of Luck bros and happy winning!This message was edited by villapark36 on 22-May-2012 @ 1:23 AM




Your strategy is much more clearer.. thanks.. Smile



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Saint Patricks Athletic FC -1.5 showed us, not to bet if there are changes in handicap or goalline! Do not even do so, if they change for your own benefit. Like from middle to smallest 3 Tier or something like that!




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If there are 3 AHO and 3 tiers goal lines, how to determine which one suit for that particular game? Are u based on payout? Thanks bro...



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When more than one plate shown, take the main plate! (Mostly the first plate offered and the plate on top of the two or three). Compare with other bookmakers if not sure.






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Todays results showed us: Better tkae home -0.75 only if middle 3 Tier is given, not when highest 3 Tier Handicap is offered. It's too risky!




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Claypot for my own picks: Shelbourne; Fram 

Hopefully the rest of the week will be better!

Did some test picks of my own (LESSON 3) at half time... Shall share my results

Case 1

1-0        Mypa           0-0.5       1.02    2-2.5    o1.06

 HT       Vassa                         0.88                u 0.82

I took the liberty to subtract the TG offered by the current goal total: 2.25 - 1 = 1.25

Applying lesson 3: Bet Over,

AHO must be 1-1.5 of TG which in this case = 0.25 : 1.25

Give ball < Over ball AND BOTH > 1.00

VERDICT: TAKE OVER 2.25 

RESULT:FT 1-0  [Can't seem to find out what's wrong here]

 

Case 2

0 - 0   Kuusyi Lahti         0.0    1.21      1.50    o 0.98

HT     JaPs                              0.66                 u 0.84

TG was straightforward : 1.5

 AHO must be 1-1.5 of TG which in this case = 0 : 1.5  

Applying lesson 3: Bet Under,

AH > 1.05 and Give > Over and Over > Under

VERDICT: TAKE UNDER 1.5

RESULT:FT 0-1 smiley

CASE 3 

1-0     IF Sylvia       0.50    1.20    2.5-3   o1.13

HT     IK Sleipner               0.71               u0.74

During HT, it change handicap once


1-0    IF Sylvia      0/0.5   0.89    2.5-3   o1.13

ht      IK Sleipner             0.99               u0.74

I applied what I previously did in Case 2 (I used the first set of odds before the Change)

TG= 2.75 - 1 = 1.75

AHO : TG = 0.5 : 1.75 (within 1.5)

AH > 1.05 and Give > Over and Over > Under

VERDICT: TAKE UNDER 2.75

FT : 2-2  [That change of handicap towards the end of HT, killed the test bet, in my opinion]

 

CASE 4

0-1     Randers FC            0.5-1     1.03    2.5-3  o1.07

HT     FC Vestsjaelland                  0.87              u0.81

Similar to CASE 1,

TG = 2.75 -1 = 1.75

AH : TG = 0.75 : 1.75 (within 1.5)

Give < Over AND BOTH >1.00

VERDICT: TAKE OVER 2.75

FT: 2-1 smiley   [ I felt confident enough midway through the half to post a running pick of o2.5 in running forum]

 

CASE 5

0-0    IF Sirius FK       0-0.5     1.08     1.50    o 1.02

HT    IK Frej                             0.80                u 0.84

NOTE THE SIMILARITY WITH CASE 2 (only the AH different) and CASE 3 (only that the handicap DID NOT change)

AH: TG = 0.25 : 1.50 (within 1.5)

AH > 1.05 and Give > Over and Over > Under

VERDICT: TAKE UNDER 1.5

FT : 0-0  smiley [No change of AH / TG during HT, stabilised odds all the way through HT contribute to this correct pick]

 

In conclusion, I like to thank bro Klavier for showing us the way it's done in order for me to come up with these case studies. 

Ball is round as presented in Case 1. 

I personally believe the lessons CAN apply to half time and we should endeavour to find more examples to test on.

I didnt check the odds at the start, could probably contribute to all the FT results I have. 

Fellow bros, please comment on what are the flaws I have and Improvements for me.

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:

Claypot for my own picks: Shelbourne; Fram 

 

Hopefully the rest of the week will be better!

Did some test picks of my own (LESSON 3) at half time... Shall share my results

Case 1

1-0        Mypa           0-0.5       1.02    2-2.5    o1.06

 HT       Vassa                         0.88                u 0.82

I took the liberty to subtract the TG offered by the current goal total: 2.25 - 1 = 1.25

Applying lesson 3: Bet Over,

AHO must be 1-1.5 of TG which in this case = 0.25 : 1.25

Give ball < Over ball AND BOTH > 1.00

VERDICT: TAKE OVER 2.25 

RESULT:FT 1-0  [Can't seem to find out what's wrong here]



this is my opinion,

before KO, TG open handicap is the lowest of 3 Tier Handicap, meanwhile Home team is giving only 0.25 ball.

conclusion for this is like bro villapark said, home team may be winning by one goal since TG is the lowest.

for your case, you staked for Over 2.25 when in running score is 1-0, it's too risky for 2.25 (maybe reasonable for Over 1.75 or Over 1.5 since there's another 45 min left for the game to produce goal, probability case)

otherwise, bro KJG's lesson i think is not for in-play strategies since the water money is swanging based on the current game happened on the pitch.

there's another strategy for odds movement decoding for in-running games.

 




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Hey guys, please discuss other strategies in other/own threads. Thanks.




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AFC : AFC Cup - Chonburi FC -0.25 (strategy1)




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Villa park bro,

Just saw yr strategy. Got some query :

For all these 3 strategy, how do u decide to take the plate AHO n over ball, is it u using the before kick off plate compare to early plate ? R u using I b c ac to make comparison or use sport book ?
Also , now most plate in *** is only 2 tier no 3.

How we decide can take or ?

Sorry try to learn......



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quote originally posted by myhousing88:

Villa park bro,

Just saw yr strategy. Got some query :

For all these 3 strategy, how do u decide to take the plate AHO n over ball, is it u using the before kick off plate compare to early plate ? R u using I b c ac to make comparison or use sport book ?
Also , now most plate in *** is only 2 tier no 3.

How we decide can take or ?

Sorry try to learn......




When more than one plate shown, take the main plate! (Mostly the first plate offered and the plate on top of the two or three). Compare with other bookmakers if not sure. Go to asianodds to see, what main plate is. Always only use main plate.



Always wait till kick-off, because there could be changes in handicap/goalline.




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quote originally posted by villapark36:

 

AFC : AFC Cup - Chonburi FC -0.25 (strategy1)


You base this on Thailand 3-tier bro? 

 

Good luck for this one. 

 

Need your advice on the 2 following Estonia matches:

Paide Linnameeskond v Trans Narva

Tallinna Kalev v Stilamae Kalev

Both away teams give ball -0.75, with Trans Narva priced at 0.48...

Good to give?


 

 

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quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:



You base this on Thailand 3-tier bro? 



 



Good luck for this one. 
 





Correct bro. Chonburi FC is a Thailand-based team. For International Cups/Leagues, you need to know the 3 Tier of the Home Team = 2.25, 2.5 , 2.75
So take Chonburi FC -0.25 (Looking good!)




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Bro, can double check with you Iceland 3-tiers? I receive conflicting information from the threads I have read so far, and regarding your example, Fram TG of o 2.5 is even lower than Stjarnan's 2.75? 

 

By theory, Fram should clear handicap too isn't it?

 

By the way, whats your take on Estonia today? Many identical odds for 2 matches... Bookie trap is it? I can find a possible bet for all 5 matches! 

 

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3 Tier Handicap 2012 Estonia Meistri Liiga 2.75, 3, 3.25

Paide Linnameeskond v FC Narva Trans
Looking at plate: FC Narva Trans -0.75 Over 2.5
-> 2.5 is lower than the smallest 3 Tier of Estonia! Better don't bet! Remember Fram Reykjavik v UMF Selfoss yesterday. There was also a goalline offered, that was smaller than usual for the league.
So stay safe and better don't risk again!

JK Tallinna Kalev v JK Sillamae Kalev
Looking at plate: JK Sillamae Kalev -0.75 Over 2.75
-> 2.75 is the lowest 3 Tier of Estonia Meistri Liiga. According to Strategy 1, ball giving team should win this. But I'm not shure, because they are playing away.

I would not risk a bet on these two games. If you want to bet on one of them, take JK Sillamae Kalev -0.75.




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Thanks for your sharing bros. I feel uncomfortable looking at away giving ball too.

Ok here's 1 that I feel confident about:-

Ullensaker Kisa - 0.5 Strategy 1

KO at 0200H 

 

 

 

 

 



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quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:

Thanks for your sharing bros. I feel uncomfortable looking at away giving ball too.



Ok here's 1 that I feel confident about:-



Ullensaker Kisa - 0.5 Strategy 1



KO at 0200H 



 



 



 


 



 





I'm not sure about the 3 Tier so I can't tell you, sorry!




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Villapark bro, tks.

Can advice any today game fit into yr str ?



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Its Norwegian Addecoligaen 3, 3.25, 3.5 based on your 3 tier info. :)

 



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Chonburi FC -0.25 looks like a win.

Want to try luck on next:
Finland : Kakkonen - 22/05/2012
Atlantis FC - PK-35/VJS Akatemia
Looking at plate: Atlantis FC -0.75 Over 3
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Finland Kakkonen: 3, 3.25, 3.5 --> Smallest 3 Tier offered!
Pick: Atlantis FC -0.75

Let's wait, if goalline changes till kick-off!



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Villapark bro , may I know what is goalline ? Playful



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quote originally posted by myhousing88:

Villapark bro , may I know what is goalline ?


It's the number of goals expected from the bookies (Like Over 2.5 or something like that).
The goalline offered by your bookmaker must fit with the lowest 3 Tier handicap for strategy 1 for example.





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quote originally posted by villapark36:

AFC : AFC Cup - Chonburi FC -0.25 (strategy1)

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Just want to let you guys know: Took Finland : Kakkonen - Atlantis FC -0.75 (strategy1) now, cause I have to leave now. Best of luck, if u follow.
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Just found another one:
AFC Champions League
Al Jazira Club v Al Ahli Jeddah
Plate: Al Jazira Club -0.25 Over 2.75
3 Tier Handicap 2011-2012 UAE 2.75, 3, 3.25 --> Smallest 3 Tier offered!
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23-May 2012 Wednesday 1:12 AM (4358 days ago)            #31
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We better do not work with -3/4 ball anymore. Doesn't work that good.
Atlantis -0.75 failed
Yesterday the -0.75 matches failed, too
We should concentrate on strategy 1 with giving 1/4 handicap!

At least we can say, the -3/4 matches are often Under!
FIN D3I FT Atlantis FC 0-2 PK-35/VJS Akatemia --> Under 3
EST D1 FT Paide Linnameeskond 0-0 Trans Narva --> Under 2.5
Yesterday:
SWE D2 FT Assyriska FF 0-0 Degerfors IF --> Under 2.75
ICE D1 FT Fram Reykjavik 0-2 UMF Selfoss --> Under 2.5

Maybe it's a new strategy to bet Under on these matches! And also both teams do not often score both!

I also saw that the teams are not able to clear handicap, if the goalline given is smaller than the smallest 3 Tier.
Today Trans Narva
Yesterday Fram Reykjavik

This is something new we learned now and we have to monitor following similar matches and see if this often happens.

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quote originally posted by villapark36:

We better do not work with -3/4 ball anymore. Doesn't work that good.
Atlantis -0.75 failed
FC Narva Trans -0.75 would have been failed
JK Sillamae Kalev -0.75 would have been failed
yesterday the -0.75 matches failed, too
We should concentrate on strategy 1 and 2 only. I will delete strategy 3 from the top!This message was edited by villapark36 on 23-May-2012 @ 1:18 AM




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quote originally posted by villapark36:

@ bigArsenalfan
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Estonia Meistri Liiga 2.75, 3, 3.25

Paide Linnameeskond v FC Narva Trans
Looking at plate: FC Narva Trans -0.75 Over 2.5
-> 2.5 is lower than the smallest 3 Tier of Estonia! Better don't bet! Remember Fram Reykjavik v UMF Selfoss yesterday. There was also a goalline offered, that was smaller than usual for the league.
So stay safe and better don't risk again!



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quote originally posted by kokster85:

GOOD JOB



This is ironic, right?





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Sorry guys for Atlantic -0.75!
This will not happen again! No 3/4 balls anymore!




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quote originally posted by villapark36:

This is ironic, right?




ironic? I'm trying to say that u have my support Smile



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quote originally posted by kokster85:

ironic? I'm trying to say that u have my support



Ah okay, thanks bro. I missunderstod Wink




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Al Jazira -0.25 also did not clear. Wonder what's wrong. The estonian matches i spot for o2.5 and -0.75... 3 out of 4 cleared. The 1 which did not clear was the one you recommended not to pick. 

Ultimately, they ended up as test picks. Sigh. 

Never mind , shall fight on with Ullensaker -0.5 (Strategy 1)!



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quote originally posted by villapark36:

Ah okay, thanks bro. I missunderstod




It's ok. I'm impressed by your strategy. Hope to see more of your picks.



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quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:

Its Norwegian Addecoligaen 3, 3.25, 3.5 based on your 3 tier info. :)

 

 



Here bro. 

I found in among the threads during the lessons and recorded down in my records.

 



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Ullensaker/Kisa leading 2-0. Looking good bros.

Just to test what we learned today, please don't bet! I also don't do:

Cordoba CF -1.5
Girona Under 2.75




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Testing was great:
Cordoba CF -1.5 WON 2-0

Let's analyze the result:

Cordoba CF - FC Cartagena
Plate: Cordoba CF -1.5 Over 2.75
2011-2012 Spanish Segunda 2, 2.25, 2.5 --> Goalline higher than highest 3 Tier (2.5 + 0.25)
Take strategy 2 and pick: Cordoba CF -1.5 WON 2-0

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Next test, better don't bet:
Atletico Madrid -1

Let's analyze the game:

Atletico Huila - Atletico Madrid
Plate: Atletico Madrid -1 Over 3
2011-2012 Colombia 1 = 2.25, 2.5, 2.75 --> Goalline higher than highest 3 Tier (2.75 + 0.25 = 3)
Take strategy 2 and pick: Atletico Madrid -1

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23-May 2012 Wednesday 10:39 AM (4357 days ago)            #45
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Next test was even better:
Atletico Madrid -1 Won 1-3

Let's analyze the game:

Atletico Huila - Atletico Madrid
Plate: Atletico Madrid -1 Over 3
2011-2012 Colombia 1 = 2.25, 2.5, 2.75 --> Goalline higher than highest 3 Tier (2.75 + 0.25 = 3)
Take strategy 2 and pick: Atletico Madrid -1 Won 1-3

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It's getting more and more predictable now. We're on the right track. Smile
By the way, Avai -0.75 was UNDER again. Just for reference.




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Next test, better don't bet, cause I never tried it was National Teams so far:
Japan -1.75

Let's analyze the game:

Japan - Azerbaijan
Plate: Japan -1.75 Over 3
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Japanese J League: 2.25, 2.5, 2.75 --> Goalline higher than highest 3 Tier (2.75 + 0.25 = 3)
Take strategy 2 and pick: Japan -1.75

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Morning villapark bro,

 

Nice pick on Japan there, good luck!

Found

Al Ittihad Jeddah
Persepolis Tehran

Home team - 0.75

Lowest of 3 tiers -> 2.5,2.75,3 (Saudi Arabia league)

Given the experiments of your previous few picks, you think its safe to take Under ?

Chiasso
Biel Bienne

Home team -0.5; TG 2.75

Lowest of 3 tiers -> 2.75,3,3.25 (Swiss Challenge League)

Similar to last night's Ullensaker game --> Home team AH =-0.5 ; TG 3 (Only difference)

Take Chiasso -0.5

 

 

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I'm not sure, yet. Some hours left till kick-off. There could be changes. Got some other ones first for us Wink!




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Next tests, small stakes only:

Korona Kielce -1.25

Let's analyze the game:

Korona Kielce - Stal Rzeszow
Plate: Korona Kielce -1.25 Over 2.75
3 Tier Handicap 2011-2012 Poland D1: 2, 2.25, 2.5 --> Goalline higher than highest 3 Tier (2.5 + 0.25 = 2.75)
Take strategy 2 and pick: Korona Kielce -1.25

Gyeongnam FC -0.25

Let's analyze the game:

Busan Transportation Corp FC - Gyeongnam FC
Plate: Gyeongnam FC -0.25 Over 2.2.25
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Korea D1 & D2: 2.25, 2.5, 2.75--> Smallest 3 Tier offered
Take strategy 1 and pick: Gyeongnam FC -0.25

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Using your strat 1,

sogndal -0.5, ifk norrko -0.5 , nordsj -0.5 and kr reykjavik -0.25

possible? or am i reading wrongly?

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Next test, better don't bet, cause I never tried it was National Teams so far:
Japan -1.75 Won 1/2

Let's analyze the game:

Japan - Azerbaijan
Plate: Japan -1.75 Over 3
3 Tier Handicap 2012 Japanese J League: 2.25, 2.5, 2.75 --> Goalline higher than highest 3 Tier (2.75 + 0.25 = 3)
Take strategy 2 and pick: Japan -1.75 Won 1/2

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quote originally posted by johnnybravo:

Using your strat 1,

sogndal -0.5, ifk norrko -0.5 , nordsj -0.5 and kr reykjavik -0.25

possible? or am i reading wrongly?This message was edited by johnnybravo on 23-May-2012 @ 9:17 PM



sogndal -0.5, reykjavik -0.25 --> possible
nordsj -0.5 not (changed to -0.75 now)




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quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:


Morning villapark bro,



 



Nice pick on Japan there, good luck!



Found



Al Ittihad Jeddah

Persepolis Tehran



Home team - 0.75



Lowest of 3 tiers -> 2.5,2.75,3 (Saudi Arabia league)



Given the experiments of your previous few picks, you think its safe to take Under ?



Chiasso

Biel Bienne



Home team -0.5; TG 2.75



Lowest of 3 tiers -> 2.75,3,3.25 (Swiss Challenge League)



Similar to last night's Ullensaker game --> Home team AH =-0.5 ; TG 3 (Only difference)



Take Chiasso -0.5



 



 




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Better don't try Under. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not. Chiasso looking good!




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Next tests, small stakes only:

Klubi 04 -2
Sogndal Fotball -0.25
KR Reykjavik -0.25
Happy Testing!




Klubi 04 and Sogndal goallines changed. Bookie traps --> Shows agian: Wait till kick-off. Your mentioned Chiasso looking good now. All eyes on:

KR Reykjavik -0.25




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KR Reykjavik -0.25 WON

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Strong win of Reykjavik, thanks!

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villapark, can I use Asianodds to monitor the odds changes? Does the information refreshed there in time and correctly? Or what site you can advise for this?

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asianodds is the best in my eyes! you see starting and closing odds very clear and it's easy to see, if there have been changes in total goals or handicap from opening till closing. works correctly and should be updated/refreshed automaticly every 3 minutes.




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Your strategies are is tempting to look! Advice please where can I learn how to calculate the 3 Tier handicaps! Thanks!

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Look into 3 Tier Update thread please!




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Sorry to hijack TS's thread.

quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:

Claypot for my own picks: Shelbourne; Fram



Hopefully the rest of the week will be better!



Did some test picks of my own (LESSON 3) at half time... Shall share my results



Case 1



1-0 Mypa 0-0.5 1.02 2-2.5 o1.06



HT Vassa 0.88 u 0.82



I took the liberty to subtract the TG offered by the current goal total: 2.25 - 1 = 1.25



Applying lesson 3: Bet Over,



AHO must be 1-1.5 of TG which in this case = 0.25 : 1.25



Give ball < Over ball AND BOTH > 1.00



VERDICT: TAKE OVER 2.25



RESULT:FT 1-0 [Can't seem to find out what's wrong here]







@1-0 they give 2.25, you have to watch out. Considering the fact that VPS has a low goal-concede rate and goal tendency, you'd somewhat need Mypa to score 2 more to win if VPS does not score. Do some research and all the best ! Smile Good luck bro! Smile




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Norway : Tippeligaen

Lillestrom -0.25 1.820 2.5 (Norwegian Tippeligaen 2.5, 2.75, 3)
Aalesund +0.25 2.110

Is this match good for 1 strategy?

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And maybe this ...
Iceland : Premier League

UMF Selfoss -0.25 1.700 -0.25 1.820 2.75 - Iceland Premier Division (2.75, 3, 3.25)
UMF Grindavik +0.25 2.280 +0.25 2.110

Am I wright, Villapark ?





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Yes, Rick Ross. This ones favourites:

Lillestrom -0.25 Over 2.5 2012 Norwegian Tippeligaen 2.5, 2.75, 3



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Yes, Iceland is changed...

Villapark, if there is no spreads in handicaps till KO, than what must happen with the odds? As I saw previously the bookies make higher odds (on 0.10 points or higher) for those bet that we chosen! Maybe there is a rule for this or it can be once more indicator of Sure bet? English is not my native language, so sorry if this hard to understand...)

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No problem bro, I understand. Smile
As I told before, I'm not looking for Odds. I'm looking for goalline- and handicap changed. I make a bet if goalline fits a 3 Tier and so one of the strategies I follow. Can win -0.25 @ 2.50 or @ 1.60. Don't eat or give ball because of Odds.

Very important that the goalline stays the same until kick-off. Yesterday best example was Venezuela - Moldova: The game was placed in Venezuela, not on neutral ground like many other friendlies these days. The goalline of Over 2.5 was given, which is the highest of the 3 Tier of Venezuela (2011-2012 Venezuela 2, 2.25, 2.50 I wanted to leave and so I took Moldova +1.5. 20 min before kick-off, the goalline changed to Over 2.75 and I didn't saw and already placed my bet. Now I would have taken Venezuela -1.5 because it fit the strategy 2 brilliant (biggest 3 Tier Venezuela of 2.5 + 0.25 = 2.75 - handicap of 1.5 = diff of 1.25 Evil Grin
The fulltime was 4-0 for Venezuela. They cleared the handicap easily.
So wait like 5 minutes till-kick of and see if the goalline changes. If so, another 3 Tier is given now and you may lose! That's the trick! Wink
And a trick the bookies use to fool us around is, that it's hard for the punter to give very huge ball like -2.25 or something like that. They play with our mind because most punter would take eat ball of +2.25. Take also that high handicaps if all other criteria fit. Don't be afraid of them. Yesterday:
Levski Sofia 7-0 (3-0) Svetkavitsa
Litex Lovech 6-2 (2-2) Lokomotiv Plovdiv
FC Tiraspol 4-1 (0-0) FC Milsami
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Ok, I see, only goalline... thanks for the extensive response, Villapark, but if handicaps changes in our favor? Or its not interesting for us?

So, Finland don't fits and this too ? Iceland: Keflavik - IBV Vestmannaeyjar

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Mostly it fits great this way:

For strategy 1: Smallest 3 Tier given and handicap of -0.25 given --> give handicap
(Works best with handicap of -0.25. Look out for this small handicaps!)


For strategy 2: highest 3 Tier + 0.25 is given and high handicap of -1.5.
If the goalline minus the handicap of example -1.5 is 1.25, it often fits brilliant.
Example yesterday:
Venezuela -1.5 Over 2.75
2011-2012 Venezuela 2, 2.25, 2.5
--> highest 3 Tier Handicap of 2.5 + 0.25 = 2.75
goalline of 2.75 - handicap of 1.5 = 1.25
Take Venezuela -1.5 --> FT 4-0 WON Playful Wink

Could also be for example:
Over 3.25 - handicap of -2 = 1.25
Over 3 - handicap of 1.75 = 1.25
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Many ways.....

Can't tell you why it's like that, but it works! Playful


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AS i see Asian odds take information from 188 bet, and we can't monitor our bets objectively from one bookie, so I think droppingodds dot com can help us too, because info is token from Pinnacle and others. And there is some difference between this site handicaps...What do you think, bro?

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Not good. Doesn't show the goalline together with handicap, but we need to see both!




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Does the site automaticly reload like asianodds? Changes at asianodds not shown at dropping odds yet.
Just a handvoll of matches shown!

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there are 2 buttons on the top of the site: one handicaps and one totals. Both pages could be open parallel... but its only my thoughts...

In "About us" written that data is refreshing every minute

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But you only got the big leagues and cuos everybody bets on shown. Try Oddsportal!
All bookmakers influence it!




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Let's start the day with first bet:

Finland : Veikkausliiga - 24/05/2012
VPS Vaasa - HJK Helsinki
HJK Helsinki -1
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Please explane why did you take this match as I saw the total line was changed there from 2.5 to 2.25?

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That's what I didn't saw. Thought 'Oh my god. smallest 3 Tier given plus favourite giving big ball, should be a win by 2-0 or something'. But I was totally wrong!




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BRO VILLAPARK'S BLOG

LEAGUE FOCUS
Iceland : Premier League

Iceland's main league, the islandic Premier League, seems to be unpredictable at first look. Who we shall bet on?, the punters ask. The problem is, you hear nothing about the league if you're out of Iceland. We worldwide punters don't know any player or trainer. That makes us think, better don't bet on that league.

With help of the bookies, predictions on results and betting becomes very easy. Icelandic Premier League became one of my favourite leagues to bet on.
Why bro villapark?, you may ask.

GREAT RESULTS [3 Tier Handicap 2012 Iceland Premier Division: 2.75, 3, 3.25]

The following match took place today:

Breidablik UBK 0:1/2 Fram Reykjavik

Total Goals of Over 2.5 where offered today. The goalline was smaller than the smallest 3 Tier handicap of the league with home-team giving the handicap. Wow, u might think, taking the home-team to win must be sure-bet! But no, you're totally wrong. It's a bookie-trap. They want you to take the home-team and offer goallines like that on every matchday of the league. And everytime they do so, eating ball brings the win. So this time again.

FT Breidablik UBK 0:2 Fram Reykjavik


PAST RESULTS @ OVER 2.5

05-10
21:15 Grindavik[6] 0-4 Keflavik[9] Handicap 0 --> Win
05-15
21:15 Breidablik[10] 1-0 Valur Reykjavik[1] Handicap 0 --> Win
05-21
21:15 Fram Reykjavik[8] 0-2 UMF Selfoss[9] Handicap 0.5/1 --> Win
05-24
21:15 Breidablik[8] 0-2 Fram Reykjavik[10] Handicap 0.5 --> Win
05-24
21:15 Fylkir[9] 3-1 Valur Reykjavik[5] Handicap 0/-0.5 --> Win


KEEP IN MIND!

Everytime you see a goalline of Over 2.5 offered in Iceland's Premier League instead of smallest 3 Tier 2.75, try your luck and take eat ball!

Best regards,
BRO VILLAPARK



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Yessss, the Iceland Premier League is my favorite now!!! Playful Wink

How about Ireland Cup for today,bro?

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quote originally posted by Samuel Lee:

How about upcoming J League, bro?



I'm not sure yet. Think I could go for Sagan Tosu +0.5.




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Hi, bro Villapark! and how about Irish Cup? There is a big number of interesting matches for 2 strategy!

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@ Rick Ross: I'm going for Sligo Rovers FC -1.75, would like to see you on my team!

@ nil: FC Tokyo -0.25 & Shimizu S Pulse -0.25 could be options, if you wanna bet on J-League tomorrow.

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Bro, I am pleased to enter into your team! But i don't know what to do if I join it Smile

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Nothing. But would be great if you be part of the COMPETITION when the new seasons starts.




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Only Sligo Rovers did't give ball, others win... there is no fortune for us today. But made some money on goal totals... Tomorrow will be more lucky Smile

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quote originally posted by RickRoss:

Only Sligo Rovers did't give ball, others win... there is no fortune for us today. But made some money on goal totals... Tomorrow will be more lucky




Very bad luck. Everyone else won 4-0 or something.

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Tonight Russia -0.25
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U are finally back bro. I have been waiting for your picks. Smile



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yes. had to travel for two weeks, now I'm back. hope we got a good start with RUSSIA

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CONGRATULATIONS

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Hi, bro!!! Yes... On this champ Russia is a difficult opponent, but Ukraine too)))Welcome to Ukraine!
How about today matches?

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