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Seems like every one is obsessed with lesson 1. OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

Actually I wanted to share more on over odds but seems like I need to teach a little on betting UNDER.

This method is extremely powerful and good but we all know how fragile is betting under. Even my most confident bet on UNDER is the most a medium stakes. Simply because I cannot convince myself to showhand on under even though this method is extremely powerful.

Under is extremely simple.

1. All you need to look out for is last 15-10 mins odds, best if it is stagnant all the way.

2. You look out for Asian Handicaps that is of 1 to 1.5 ball lesser than the TG handicap.

For e.g, if Team A is giving 1 ball and the TG is 2 ball to 2.5. With the difference of TG and AHO is 1 to 1.5 ball, this kind of odds fits the bill now.

3. With the above example, the give ball team water money must be above 1.05 and the give ball water money must be higher than the over ball water money and the over ball water money must be higher than under ball water money. Digest? Please do.

4. Bet Under!

Example below:

05/06 :	Recreativo Huelva Gimnastic Tarragona Draw	1.0	1.20	2.50	o	1.17
			0.75		u	0.75

Something like this.

For AHO below 1 ball: ONLY 0.75 & 0.5 except level and 0.25 ball, you can bet under based on the above criteria AND your TG must be the lowest of the 3 Tier Handicap ruling.

Example:

05/20 :	Bayern Munchen Chelsea Draw	1.78	0.5-1	1.12	2.50	o	1.09	o	1.00	2.30	0-0.5	0.91	1.0	o	1.03
		4.70		0.82		u	0.81	e	0.90	5.00		0.99		u	0.87
		3.40								2.15

Bayern home 3 Tier: 2.5, 2.75, 3

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A good game today worth shortlisting:

Belarus Premier League
22:30 ! Live	Torpedo Zhodino BATE Borisov Draw	5.60		0.77	2-2.5	o	1.01	o	0.96	6.20		1.25	0.5-1	o	0.77
		1.52	1.0	1.07		u	0.81	e	0.90	1.98	0-0.5	0.64		u	1.05
		3.55								2.21

The draw back here is Bate might score in FH. Can u endure?

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Today Under Hits:

Celtic Closing Odds:
1.08 1.5 0.82 2012-05-04 02:44:25
1.06 2.5/3 0.81 02:39 04/05/2012

FT 1-0

Harimau Muda A Closing Odds:
1.00 1.5 0.8
0.95 3 0.85
Odds from Bet365

FT 2-0

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mr pipi Find all Topics Started by mr pipi Find all Posts by mr pipi Follow / Unfollow PM mr pipi		05-May 2012 Saturday 1:53 AM (4376 days ago)	#4
Senior Member Posts: 354 Liked By: 39 Joined: 29 Oct 07 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	[1]Slovan Liberec - Synot Slovacko[9] bro above match can right for under? thanks
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quote originally posted by mr pipi:

[1]Slovan Liberec - Synot Slovacko[9]

bro above match can right for under?

thanks

sorry just got back. Did u bet on it?

FT 0-0. Free cash.

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Senior Member Posts: 354 Liked By: 39 Joined: 29 Oct 07 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	Yes nice one. Haha spotted under for tonight? I'm still searching
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quote originally posted by mr pipi:

Yes nice one. Haha spotted under for tonight? I'm still searching

23:00 ! Live	Ruch Chorzow Lechia Gdansk Draw	1.35	1.50	1.16	2.50	o	0.95	o	1.00	1.85	0.50	0.86	1.0	o	0.87
		10.50		0.78		u	0.95	e	0.90	6.20		1.02		u	1.01
		4.10								2.40

23:00 ! Live	Manchester United Swansea City Draw	1.16	2-2.5	1.04	3.50	o	0.96	o	1.00	1.50	1.0	0.99	1.50	o	1.00
		18.00		0.90		u	0.94	e	0.90	9.25		0.91		u	0.90
		7.00								3.10

Looks decent.

Yesterday there is one Trnava Slovakian game. Did u take that?

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I will try on this first. Looks decent as well.

JAPAN J-LEAGUE DIV. 2
15:00 ! Live	Fagiano Okayama FC Gifu Draw	2.08	0.50	1.09	2-2.5	o	1.06	o	0.83	2.63	0-0.5	1.13	0.5-1	o	0.76
		3.70		0.83		u	0.84	e	1.07	4.10		0.76		u	1.13
		3.05								2.01

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

I will try on this first. Looks decent as well.

JAPAN J-LEAGUE DIV. 2

15:00
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Fagiano Okayama
FC Gifu
Draw

2.08

0.50

1.09

2-2.5

1.06

0.83

2.63

0-0.5

1.13

0.5-1

0.76

3.70

0.83

0.84

1.07

4.10

0.76

1.13

3.05

2.01

FT 0-1. 86min goal. Safe and sound.

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Senior Member Posts: 354 Liked By: 39 Joined: 29 Oct 07 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	Hi bro sorry for late reply jus came back. Missed Ur matches. Just checking for this under strategy do we have to look at opening handicap? As in man utd opening is -2 now -2.25 will it affect. Or we just look at last 15 mins b4 KO and check the criterias? Thanks
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quote originally posted by mr pipi:

Hi bro sorry for late reply jus came back. Missed Ur matches.
Just checking for this under strategy do we have to look at opening handicap? As in man utd opening is -2 now -2.25 will it affect. Or we just look at last 15 mins b4 KO and check the criterias?

Thanks

You dun have to worry about the opening handicap. For this, just take note of the final odds.

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Junior Member Posts: 1 Joined: 25 Apr 12 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	hi bro, i am new to betting and i hope you will not laugh at the questions i am going to ask. i would like to know what is 1. water money . in your every post i see you writing water money everywhere but i dont understand what is that actually. 2. how do you see the main plate ? is it always the first plate that is shown for the match ? eg Bayern Munchen (N) 0 0.83 2.5 0.96 2.37 Borussia Dortmund -0.91 u 0.94 2.84 Draw 3.30 Bayern Munchen (N) 0-0.5 -0.83 2.5-3 -0.85 Borussia Dortmund 0.75 u 0.75 Draw Bayern Munchen (N) 0.5 -0.69 2-2.5 -0.83 Borussia Dortmund 0.61 u 0.73 Draw 3. is there any difference in the arrangement of the above example like, Bayern Munchen give 1/4 the TG is 2.5-3 but Bayern Munchen give 1/2 the tg is 2-2.5 sorry for the noob questions
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quote originally posted by tengkiat:

hi bro,

i am new to betting and i hope you will not laugh at the questions i am going to ask.

i would like to know what is

1. water money . in your every post i see you writing water money everywhere but i dont understand what is that actually.

2. how do you see the main plate ? is it always the first plate that is shown for the match ? eg
Bayern Munchen (N) 0 0.83 2.5 0.96 2.37
Borussia Dortmund -0.91 u 0.94 2.84
Draw 3.30

Bayern Munchen (N) 0-0.5 -0.83 2.5-3 -0.85
Borussia Dortmund 0.75 u 0.75
Draw

Bayern Munchen (N) 0.5 -0.69 2-2.5 -0.83
Borussia Dortmund 0.61 u 0.73
Draw

3. is there any difference in the arrangement of the above example like,
Bayern Munchen give 1/4 the TG is 2.5-3
but Bayern Munchen give 1/2 the tg is 2-2.5

sorry for the noob questions

1. Water money refers to the win rate of the handicap or tg u betting on. Like u win 0.80 of your stakes, 0.75 or 0.90 or win full. U understand?

2. SBOBET usually offer 2 to 3 handicaps for a game right? Always refer to the top most offered odds. For e.g,

USA Major League Soccer
10:00 ! Live	Seattle Sounders Real Salt Lake Draw	1.96	0.50	0.97	2.50	o	1.09	o	1.00	2.46	0-0.5	1.05	1.0	o	1.08
		3.70		0.95		u	0.81	e	0.90	4.10		0.83		u	0.80
		3.35								2.12
10:00 ! Live	Seattle Sounders Real Salt Lake Draw		0-0.5	0.68	2-2.5	o	0.85
				1.31		u	1.05

U refer to the first one always.

3. Yes there is difference. At least to me. Let's use the above game as example. This example means that Seattle is giving 0.5 as the main odds while Seattle give 0.25 is an alternative choice. Usually main odds are odds that are offered at other Asian handicap bookies. Not every online bookie offer alternate handicap betting. Like for e.g Betinternet,

Major League Soccer - Seattle Sounders FC v Real Salt Lake - 13 May 2012 10:00
	90 mins	Handicap		Under and Over Goals		1st Half Handicap
Seattle Sounders FC	1.85	-0.5	1.90	Under 2.5	1.75	-0/0.5	2.05
Real Salt Lake	3.95	0.5	1.95	Over 2.5	2.05	0/0.5	1.80
Draw	3.40

Only half ball to bet.

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23:59 ! Live	Rapid Bucuresti Pandurii Targu-Jiu Draw	1.44	1-1.5	1.11	2.50	o	1.01	o	1.00	2.11	0.50	1.12	1.0	o	0.90
		5.60		0.78		u	0.85	e	0.90	4.80		0.77		u	0.96
		4.00								2.28

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Senior Member Posts: 354 Liked By: 39 Joined: 29 Oct 07 Tipsters Championship: Player has not started	bro this one also can right for under KooTeePee Hameenlinna Draw 1.56 1.0 -0.96 2.50 o -0.99 o 1.00 2.09 0-0.5 0.78 1.0 o 0.98 5.40 0.86 u 0.87
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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

For AHO below 1 ball: ONLY 0.75 & 0.5 except level and 0.25 ball, you can bet under based on the above criteria AND your TG must be the lowest of the 3 Tier Handicap ruling.

Example:

05/20 :	Bayern Munchen Chelsea Draw	1.78	0.5-1	1.12	2.50	o	1.09	o	1.00	2.30	0-0.5	0.91	1.0	o	1.03
		4.70		0.82		u	0.81	e	0.90	5.00		0.99		u	0.87
		3.40								2.15

Bayern home 3 Tier: 2.5, 2.75, 3

This exception... what do you mean? The lowest of the 3 tiers rule applies only to 0.25 / level ball?
0.75/0.5 can carry on as per above 1? Thanks for clarifying in advance

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quote originally posted by bigArsenalfan:

This exception... what do you mean? The lowest of the 3 tiers rule applies only to 0.25 / level ball?
0.75/0.5 can carry on as per above 1? Thanks for clarifying in advance

better not.low handicap means both teams got almost equal chance to score in the game. not that good to bet on under.

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Hi KJG bro, can you help to advise if the reference plate for this match should be taken from the opening odds the day before (give hdp -1 & TG O/U 2.5; only 1 plate given) or the 1st row from 2nd example which was updated today (initial opening plate pushed to 2nd row)? Sorry if it's too confusing.

05/24 07:00	New York Red Bulls Deportivo Chivas USA Draw	1.67	1.0	1.29	2.50	o	0.98	o	1.00	2.05	0-0.5	0.76	1.0	o	0.90
		5.60		0.69		u	0.92	e	0.90	5.80		1.13		u	0.98
		3.35								2.18

07:00 ! Live	New York Red Bulls Deportivo Chivas USA Draw	1.66	0.5-1	0.89	2-2.5	o	0.88	o	1.00	2.09	0-0.5	0.78	1.0	o	0.97
		5.60		1.03		u	1.02	e	0.90	5.80		1.11		u	0.91
		3.35								2.14
07:00 ! Live	New York Red Bulls Deportivo Chivas USA Draw		1.0	1.20	2.50	o	1.12
				0.75		u	0.79

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New York Red Bulls

1 - 1

CD Chivas USA

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quote originally posted by sg_gambler:

05/24 07:00	New York Red Bulls Deportivo Chivas USA Draw	1.67	1.0	1.29	2.50	o	0.98	o	1.00	2.05	0-0.5	0.76	1.0	o	0.90
		5.60		0.69		u	0.92	e	0.90	5.80		1.13		u	0.98
		3.35								2.18

07:00 ! Live	New York Red Bulls Deportivo Chivas USA Draw	1.66	0.5-1	0.89	2-2.5	o	0.88	o	1.00	2.09	0-0.5	0.78	1.0	o	0.97
		5.60		1.03		u	1.02	e	0.90	5.80		1.11		u	0.91
		3.35								2.14
07:00 ! Live	New York Red Bulls Deportivo Chivas USA Draw		1.0	1.20	2.50	o	1.12
				0.75		u	0.79

always look at the first row. if the second row becomes first , then take reference from the first.

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quote originally posted by KlavierJoenessGavin:

always look at the first row. if the second row becomes first , then take reference from the first.

Thanks thanks.. That means I was running a risky bet since the plates has swapped. I will note that.

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